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ଏହି ପୃଷ୍ଠାରେ ଥିବା ଆଲୋଚନାଗୁଡ଼ିକୁ ଆଲୋଚନା ସଭାରୁ ଆଣି ଏଠାରେ ସାଇତାଯାଇଛି । ଦୟାକରି ଏହି ପୃଷ୍ଠାରେ କିଛି ବଦଳ କରନ୍ତୁ ନାହିଁ । ଯଦି ଆପଣ ଏଠାରେ ଆଲୋଚନା ହୋଇଥିବା କୌଣସି ବିଷୟ ଉପରେ ପୁଣି ଆଲୋଚନା କରିବାକୁ ଚାହୁଁଛନ୍ତି, ତେବେ ଏଠାରେ କ୍ଲିକ କରି ନୂଆ ଆଲୋଚନାଟିଏ ଆରମ୍ଭ କରନ୍ତୁ କିମ୍ବା ସେହି ବିଷୟ ଉପରେ ଥିବା ପୃଷ୍ଠାର ଆଲୋଚନା ପୃଷ୍ଠାରେ ଆଲୋଚନା କରନ୍ତୁ । | |
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Sir, There are some bugs, so that it is not working in firefox...ଓଦିଶ1 talk
That might be cache problem. Srikanth, kindly clear cache and recheck. --Shijualex ୧୯:୧୭, ୪ ମାର୍ଚ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
All My Dear Wikipedians, I want to install Twinkle on Odia Wikipedia, As it is a set of JavaScript functions that will give registered users, autoconfirmed users and also confirmed users several new options to assist them in common Wikipedia maintenance tasks, and to help them deal with acts of vandalism. It provides users with three types of rollback functions and includes a full library of speedy deletion functions, user warnings, pseudo-automatic reporting of vandals, and much, much more.
I will be installing Twinkle under the guidance of UncleDouggie, he is currently working to develop new version of Twinkle on English Wiki ଓଡ଼ିଆ.
So, I request you all to please tell me that this will help us or not. Thankyou, --Srikant Kedia ୦୮:୧୪, ୧୩ ଏପ୍ରିଲ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
Sorry that was my mistake. If your eagerly want to use this utility, follow the below steps.
importScriptURI('http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:AzaToth/twinkle.js&action=raw&ctype=text/js');
Jayantanth (ମୋ କଥା) ୧୭:୫୫, ୧୩ ଏପ୍ରିଲ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
If you want to use any personal script like twinkle and many others, You can use your own users page.Thanking you. Jayantanth (ମୋ କଥା) ୦୮:୦୬, ୧୪ ଏପ୍ରିଲ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
A bug has been posted with a request for installing Liquid thread which will help a very well formatted documentation of Discussion (ଆଲୋଚନା) and we can use them for long multiuser discussions in several places including ଆଲୋଚନା ସଭା. So, please raise a consensus here.
I just have one question for shiju and tinu, If an admin in malayalam wikipedia is obsessed with Karintamil and edits/writes in karintamil, changes the spellings of most of the words in all the articles/templates/instructions in malayalam wikipedia to karintamil. Starts behaving in a bureaucratic fashion by not accepting any suggestions, rather feels or believes what he or she thinks is correct, will you accept the admin or oppose the admin..To me an admin should be neutral..And in case of odia wikipedia, be willing to use the real literary odia used in books, newspapers, education, governmental organisations, communication, etc. and not some hypothetical ancient Odia, which is not accepted at any quarter, be it education, governmental works, newspapers, books & communications. This has been going on for a while here to an extent that most of the words, templates & instructions are not in the proper odia, and they ain't being changed, neither is the changes done by others accepted by the admin. --ସମ୍ବିଧାନ ମହାନ୍ତି
I agree with Sambidhan Mohanty | What do we want from wikipedia ? some information which is available to all and which everyone can understand. Or something which I might have mastered at and I will write in a language which I will think is the best dialect to be writen ? Every language has many dialects and we do not write them, but here at Odia wikipedia it is being done on a basis which no one uiunderstands, someone proclaims to be a genius at some language and he forces it on everyone. ??? How come that be accepted ? Is the government fool, are all the literates fools who speak and write the language, is the thousand years of development of a language a nothing ? Why should someone force something on everyone which no one understands and rather I would say this will only distract everyone. If you wish to show your genius go and create your own media and show it, dont forrce it on a public media like wikipedia.
We live in present and not in some hypothetical era where the language was degraded. We can not advocate the language which does not have any writen evidences. If someone thinks that this is the root of the original odia, that does not mean we all must abide by that and agree to what ever foolish things that are posted on the posts of the wikipedia.
While we at our end are trying to change that, our changes are being discarded??? And the depiction on the front page of the wikipedia are all wrong, how do we change that ??? It is for the betterment of the Odia wikipedia that we are praying for a change in the administratorship. If it is heard, that is alright, else, there is no doubt we can see again another 8-10 years of bad days for wikipedia.
Dhanyabaad.
Jyoti Prasad Pattnaik (ମୋ କଥା) ୦୯:୦୧, ୧୮ ଏପ୍ରିଲ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
Now a day there are big issue arise in Odia wiki about Standard Wiki/Standard term/Pali Odia etc. I am sharing my experience attached with Bengali Wikipedia where near 21 dialects exist. When ever you find any issue regarding any Odia words, follow the below steps to achieve Standard Odia. My suggestion is below to Odia wikipedia community. We follow the same steps for our Bengali Wikipedia
1. Discuss that word in this page mean Village pump. During discussion please Be polite ,Assume good faith and Avoid personal attacks. If any user thinks other Wikipedian use Pali or some hypothetical ancient Odia or not Standard Odia etc , please submit/recommend alternative Standard Odia with reliable, verifiable proof. As per my basic knowledge Mughalbandi is Standard/proper Oriya.[୧].
2. There should be a regulating institute, who regulate Odia/Oriya Language. I heard that “Utkala sammilani” is a non official regulating institute. There may be any printed document regarding Standard Odia. ( as like our Bengali language Regulated by Bangla Academy ,Bangladesh Paschimbanga Bangla Akademi ,West Bengal, they published lots of works, we adopted this for Bengali Wikipedia after discussion ) . Check that word, what they recommend.
3. If there is no regulating institute, Check current/present printed media, online media.(newspaper/magazine etc). They should always use Standard Odia. Here you find alternative regular word used in Odia.
4. Check the books published by Govt of Orissa in Education Department, Or refer any published book by Govt of Orissa. Check current/present literary works. Thank you.
Jayantanth (ମୋ କଥା) ୧୮:୨୯, ୧୯ ଏପ୍ରିଲ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
May your abuses become boons for us. Amen! ଆଉ ତମ ମନ ତମକୁ ଫଳୁ. --ସଁବି ର
No Sir, i commented on the previous users' abuses. Please do not take it to your side. Really, I appreciate your suggestion a lot. The first two users have intentionally targeted the admin. They are putting all those useless arguments in order to defame and demoralize the admin so that they would be able to acquire the adminship in the Oriya Wiki ଓଡ଼ିଆ. This is the ground reality. Once again I would like to say that my comment was not meant for you. --ସଁବି ର
This is for the information of everyone that we are not involved in abusing anyone and or demoralizing anyone, since the person in question is not someone who is following a standard format of the language, we just wanted to rectify that, behind this there is no other intention other than making it clear for all to get to see the better representation of the language on the wikipedia.
We do not wish to become administrators ourselves, not at least me, since I am not sure if I can give that much of time for the wiki. And our discussions if at all felt like useless arguments, seems the mentality of the user too. Un-accepting the truth and the correct language and arguing for the hypothetical ones is the birth right of some people who think they are the masters of the language.
What Jayant nath has proposed, we have been saying the same only, but our representations have not been accepted and were argued like anything to create an environment in wikipedia and force a lesser used dialect on the face of wikipedia which is simply unacceptable to me because I know what is Odia and I will not keep silent if someone makes the language look ugly.
Jyoti Prasad Pattnaik (ମୋ କଥା) ୦୨:୦୦, ୨୦ ଏପ୍ରିଲ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
ଆହୁରି ଅନେକ ରହିଛି ଧିରେ ଧିରେ ସବୁ ବଦଳାଇବାକୁ ପଡିବ | --Jyoti Prasad Pattnaik (ମୋ କଥା) ୧୫:୦୮, ୧୮ ଏପ୍ରିଲ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
ପାଣି କୁ ଇଂରେଜୀ ରେ କେମିତି ଲେଖିବା ? ଉଆଟର୍ କହି ଲେଖିଲେ ଚାଲିବ କି ? ଓବେବସାଇଟ୍ ବୋଲି ଲେଖିବା ସମ୍ଭାବ୍ ହେଉନାହି ବୋଢ଼ ହୁଏ, ତେଣୁ ବିକିପେଡିଆ ଲେଖିବା କି ଅସମ୍ଭାବ୍ ହେଇଥିବା | ଓକ ଭଲ କଥା କମ୍ୟୁନିଟି କୁ କମୁନିତି କାହିଁକି କରୁଛା ? ଏଥିରେ ପୁଣି କିଏ ମନା କରିବା ? ଏଥି ମୁଖ୍ୟ ବଦଳ ପାଇଁ କି ପ୍ରକାରର ବହୁମତ ନିୟ ଯିବା ? ଯେତେବେଳେ ଲେଖା ହୋଇଥିଲା ସେତେବେଳେ ବହୁ ମତ ନିଆ ଯାଇଥିଲା କି ? --Jyoti Prasad Pattnaik (ମୋ କଥା) ୧୫:୫୮, ୧୮ ଏପ୍ରିଲ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
ବିକିପେଡିଆ ନା ୱିକିପେଡିଆ? ମୁ ଭାବୁଛି ବୋଧେ ୱିକିପେଡିଆ ଠିକ ହେବ । କିନ୍ତୁ ଏପରି ଲେଖିବା ଏଠି ସମ୍ଭବ ହେଉ ନାହିଂ Dibyabttb (ମୋ କଥା) ୧୬:୪୦, ୧୮ ଏପ୍ରିଲ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
ମୋର ମତରେ ଏହି ସବୁ ପରିବର୍ତ୍ତନ କରିବା ଉଚିତ
ଉଇକିପିଡିଆ is correct as it is pronounced WIK-i-PEE-dee-ə , for reference see --Srikant Kedia ୧୭:୫୪, ୧୮ ଏପ୍ରିଲ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
ଉଇକିପିଡିଆ isn't WIK-i-PEE-dee-ə, it would more or less be OO-i-kee-pee-dee-ə which is wrong. ୱିକ୍ or ବିକ୍(ବ ଫଳା) is correct pronunciation for "WIK" ସମ୍ବିଧାନ ମହନ୍ତି
The problem is we cannot type ୱି in odia using the transliteration tool. Whenever ୱି is typed using transliteration it is displayed as ୱ୍ଇ and insight isn't user friendly enough to rely upon, though it can be used for typing ୱି. --ସମ୍ବିଧାନ ମହନ୍ତି
one more thing i'd like to add here phonetic wise WIK-i-PEE-dee-ə should actually be written as ୱିକିପୀଡିଆ or ବିକିପୀଡିଆ - ସମ୍ବିଧାନ ମହନ୍ତି
--ସଁବି ର
ପୁର୍ଣ ଚନ୍ଦ୍ର ଭାଷାକୋଷ ଏକ ଏନସାଇକ୍ଳୋପିଡ଼ିଆ ଥିଲା ଓଡିଆ ଭାଷା ର ଜ୍ଞାନର ନୁହେ | ଜ୍ଞାନ ଏକ ବୃହତର ଶବ୍ଦ ଯାହା କେବଳ ଭାଷା ବ୍ୟତିତ ଆହୁରି ଅନେକ କିଛି | ପୁର୍ଣ ଚନ୍ଦ୍ର ଭାଷାକୋଷରେ ଓଡିଆ ରେ ବ୍ୟବହୃତ ଶବ୍ଦ ମାନନକର ବ୍ୟାଖ୍ୟ ଥିଲା ତେଣୁ ତାକୁ ଜ୍ଞାନର ଏନସାଇକ୍ଳୋପିଡ଼ିଆ ବୋଲି କୁହାଯାଇ ପାରିବ ନାହି |
--Jyoti Prasad Pattnaik (ମୋ କଥା) ୦୫:୧୨, ୧୯ ଏପ୍ରିଲ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
ପୂର୍ଣ୍ଣଚନ୍ଦ୍ର ଭାଷାକୋଷରେ ବିଭିନ୍ନ ବ୍ୟକ୍ତିବିଶେଷ, ରାଜବଂଶ, ଗଡ଼ଜାତ, ଶକ୍ତିପୀଠ, ଗୋତ୍ର, ଧର୍ମ ଅନୁଷ୍ଠାନ, ପୁରାଣ ଇତ୍ୟାଦି ଅନେକ ଅନେକ ବିଷୟରେ ଫରଦ ଫରଦ ଧରି ବିସ୍ତୃତ ବର୍ଣ୍ଣନା ବି ରହିଅଛି । ଏସବୁ ତଥ୍ୟ କଣ 'ଜ୍ଞାନ'ର ପରିସରଭୁକ୍ତ ନୁହନ୍ତି ? --ସଁବି ର
ଜ୍ଞାନ ଠାରୁ ଭାଷା ବ୍ଶୀ ବ୍ୟାପକ ମନେ ହୁଏ । ତେଣୁ ଭାଷାକୋଷ ଜ୍ଞାନକୋଷ ଠାରୁ ବେଶୀ ଠିକ ହେବ, ପୁଣି ଯଦି ବିଶ୍ଵସାରାର ସବୁ ଜ୍ଞାନ ଗୋଟିଏ ଭାଷାର ପୋଥିରେ ଲେଖାଯାଇପାରିଲା ତେବେ ଭାଷାକୋଷ ଭିତରେ ଜ୍ଞାନ ଆସୁନାହିଁ କି? ତେଣୁ ଏହି ଭାବରେ ଭାଷାକୋଷର ଅର୍ଥ ଗୋଟିଏ ଭାଷାର ସାହିତ୍ୟ, କଳା, ବିଜ୍ଞାନ ଆଦି ନାନା ଜ୍ଞାନବିଜ୍ଞାନର ତଥ୍ୟ ସବୁ ସାଇତା ହୋଇଥିବା ଏକ କୋଷ । ସୁଭ ପା/Subhashish Panigrahi (ମୋ କଥା) ୦୫:୪୫, ୧୯ ଏପ୍ରିଲ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
ଏକା ପରିବାର ର ହେଲେ ମଧ୍ୟ ବିଲେଇ କୁ ବାଘ କହିଲେ, ବିଲେଇ ବାଘ ହୋଇଯାଏ ନାହିଁ
ବିକିପେଡ଼ିଆ ଭଳି ଓଡିଆରେ ମେଡିଆ, ପେଡିଆ ଲେଖାର ନଜିର ଅଛି, ତେଣୁ ବିକିପେଡ଼ିଆ ଲେଖାହେଉ | କମ୍ୟୁନିଟି ପୋର୍ଟାଲକୁ ଗୋଷ୍ଠୀ ଆଲୋଚନା ସଭା ଲେଖାଯାଉ, ବିକିପେଡ଼ିଆରେ ସମସ୍ତଙ୍କୁ ଲେଖକ କୁହାଯାଇପାରିବ ନାହିଁ, ଲେଖକ ବଦଲରେ ଦାତା ହେଲେ ଭଲ ଲାଗିବ । ପ୍ରଧାନ ପୃଷ୍ଠା ବେଶୀ ମାନକ ଲାଗୁଛି । ଜ୍ଞାନମଣ୍ଡଳ ନାମରେ ଆଗରୁ ଏନସୈକ୍ଲୋପେଡିଆ ଅଛି- ବିନୋଦ କାନୁନଗୋଙ୍କର, ତେଣୁ ଜ୍ଞାନମଣ୍ଡଳ ନାମଟି ଭଲ ସୁହେଇବ । ansuman (ମୋ କଥା) ୧୪:୨୫, ୨୫ ଏପ୍ରିଲ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
ପ୍ରିୟ ସଭ୍ୟ, ଉଇକିମିଡ଼ିଆ ଇଣ୍ଡିଆ ଚାପ୍ଟର ତରଫରୁ ପ୍ରଥମ ନିଉଜ ଲେଟର ସେପ୍ଟେମ୍ବର ୨୦୧୦ରେ ବାହାର କରାଯାଇଥିଲା। ଏବେ ଜୁନ ୨୦୧୧ର ଖବର ଚିଠି ବାହାର କରାହେବ। ମୁଁ ଆପଣ ମାନଙ୍କୁ ଅନୁରୋଧ କରୁଛି କି ନିଉଜ ଲେଟର ପାଇ ଇଂରାଜୀରେ ଲେଖନ୍ତୁ । ଏଠାରେ ଆଗର ଗୋଟିଏ ବର୍ଷର ଓଡ଼ିଆ ବିକିପିଡିଆର ଇତିହାସ ଲେଖିବାର ଅଛି। ଏମିତି ପୃଷ୍ଠା ମଲୟାଲାମ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ ଆଗରୁ [ଏଠାରେ ତିଆରି କରିଛନ୍ତି । ଅନ୍ୟ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ ଏହି ଏକା ଫର୍ମାଟ ବ୍ୟବହାର କରୁଛତି। ମୁ ଆପଣ ମାନଙ୍କ ଠାରୁ ଆଶା ରଖୁଛି କି ଆପଣ ମାନେ ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିର ଇତିହାସ ଲେଖିବାରେ ସାହାଯ୍ୟ କରିବେ। --Srikant Kedia ୦୫:୪୧, ୧୭ ମେ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
୧୦୦୦ ଲେଖା ପାଇଁ କେନ୍ଦ୍ର ସୂଚନା ଫଳକ
ଆଉ 185 ଲେଖା ପରେ ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆରେ ୧୦୦୦ ଲେଖା ହେବ, ଆମେ ଲକ୍ଷ ରଖିଛୁ ମେ ମାସ ସେସରୁ ଏହା ପୂରଣ କରିବୁ । ତେଣୁ ମୁଁ ସଭ୍ୟମାନଙ୍କୁ ଅନୁରୋଧ କରୁଛି ଆମ ସମସ୍ତଙ୍କୁ ଏହି କଥା ଜଣାଇବା ପାଇଁ ଏଠାରେ ଏକ କେନ୍ଦ୍ର ସୂଚନା ଫଳକର ଆବଶ୍ୟକତା ରହୁଛି, ତେଣୁ ଆପଣଙ୍କ ମତ ଏହି ଲେଖା ତଳେ ଦିଅନ୍ତୁ ।
ଭଲ କଥାଟିଏ, ମୁଁ ସମର୍ଥନ କରୁଛି। ଆଉ ସମସ୍ତଙ୍କୁ ଆହ୍ଵାନ କରୁଛିକି ଆସନ୍ତୁ ୧୦୦୦ ଏହି ଲକ୍ଷ୍ୟ ଶୀଘ୍ର ପୂରଣ କରିବା। ଆଶୁତୋଷ କର
ନିଶ୍ଚିତ ସଫଳ ହେବା |ମୃତ୍ୟୁଞ୍ଜୟ କର (ମୋ କଥା) ୦୮:୩୪, ୨୩ ମେ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
This language has been called Oriya in English for over 200 years. I for one do not recognize "Odia" or "Odiya" (though both remind me of the word "odious"). Why isn't the traditional name of the language in English being used for it in the sentence in English here? We say "French", too, and not "Français". Can English not be given some respect? Evertype (ମୋ ଆଲୋଚନା) ୦୮:୪୦, ୨ ଜୁନ ୨୦୧୧ (UTC)
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