no Disclaimers

  An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Wiki: NDA and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wiki: Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 22#Wikipedia:NDA until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis 21:09, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

"In fact, all articles already have a disclaimer, linked at the bottom of this page and every other page on Wiki English." The disclaimer is accessible from mobile web by clicking the burgur menu. While this certainly makes it accessible from every article page, the user has to do an action to view the disclaimer link. Is it accurate to say "linked at every other page/linked at the bottom of every other page"? Squeezdakat (talk) 04:18, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

I propose adding the following to #Acceptable disclaimers:

• The suicide and suicide methods articles contain hatnotes that link to suicide prevention.

This change would codify the consensus reached at the RFC for Suicide and RFC for Suicide methods. I don't believe there was consensus at the RFCs to have a disclaimer on the broader category of suicide-related articles, so I want to make sure this exception is narrowly written. That's why I'm listing only these two articles as an "acceptable disclaimer". If additional articles use the hatnote, there should be community consensus to override the general rule against disclaimers. I'd appreciate any thoughts others might have.

@Tamzin, Freedom4U, Mitch Ames, and AirshipJungleman29: Pinging for awareness, due to the related discussion at Talk:Sanctioned Suicide. Edge3 (talk) 03:37, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

I don't see the point of listing it if we're just going to list two lone exceptions. WP:IAR exists whether this policy mentions them or not. If we're going to include something, it should be more along the lines of
• In isolated cases, there have been consensuses to include hatnotes to the article Suicide prevention atop certain articles about suicide
But I think the simpler solution here is to say nothing. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 03:51, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose such a change. WP:IAR covers this relatively rare case. The existing "acceptable disclaimers" are general and common cases. Adding specific rare cases is unnecessary WP:CREEP, and runs the risk of inviting further exceptions. (Note the 4th bullet point of Wiki: No_disclaimers#Why_disclaimers_should_not_be_used: "It is hard to define which articles should have a disclaimer ... Allowing some disclaimers would generate a significant overhead of disputes regarding where to draw the line." Mitch Ames (talk) 05:03, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
  Makes sense; thanks for the feedback. Edge3 (talk) 06:19, 18 August 2023 (UTC)