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談

See also: 谈
談 U+8AC7, 談
CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-8AC7
← 諆
[U+8AC6]		CJK Unified Ideographs諈 →
[U+8AC8]

Translingual edit

Han character edit

談 (Kangxi radical 149, 言+8, 15 strokes, cangjie input 卜口火火 (YRFF), four-corner 09689, composition ⿰訁炎)

Derived characters edit

  • 𡃘

Related characters edit

References edit

  • Kangxi Dictionary: page 1167, character 11
  • Dai Kanwa Jiten: character 35633
  • Dae Jaweon: page 1632, character 22
  • Hanyu Da Zidian (first edition): volume 6, page 3992, character 7
  • Unihan data for U+8AC7

Chinese edit

trad.談
simp.谈
alternative forms譚／谭

Glyph origin edit

Characters in the same phonetic series (炎) (Zhengzhang, 2003) 
Old Chinese
倓*l'oːmʔ, *l'aːm, *l'aːms
緂*l̥ʰaːm, *l̥ʰaːmʔ, *l̥ʰjam
毯*l̥ʰaːmʔ
菼*l̥ʰaːmʔ
裧*l̥ʰaːmʔ, *l̥ʰjam, *l̥ʰjams
賧*l̥ʰaːms
睒*l̥ʰaːms, *hljamʔ
舕*l̥ʰaːms
談*l'aːm
郯*l'aːm
惔*l'aːm, *l'aːmʔ, *l'aːms
錟*l'aːm
淡*l'aːm, *l'aːmʔ, *l'aːms, *lamʔ
痰*l'aːm
餤*l'aːm
啖*l'aːmʔ, *l'aːms
腅*l'aːms
剡*ɦljamʔ, *lamʔ
覢*hljamʔ
掞*hljams
炎*ɦlam
琰*lamʔ
棪*lamʔ
扊*lamʔ

Phono-semantic compound (形聲／形声, OC *l'aːm) : semantic 言 (“speech”) + phonetic 炎 (OC *ɦlam).

Etymology edit

From Proto-Sino-Tibetan *g-tam ~ g-dam.

Pronunciation edit

  • Dialectal data
VarietyLocation談
MandarinBeijing/tʰan³⁵/
Harbin/tʰan²⁴/
Tianjin/tʰan⁴⁵/
Jinan/tʰã⁴²/
Qingdao/tʰã⁴²/
Zhengzhou/tʰan⁴²/
Xi'an/tʰã²⁴/
Xining/tʰã²⁴/
Yinchuan/tʰan⁵³/
Lanzhou/tʰɛ̃n⁵³/
Ürümqi/tʰan⁵¹/
Wuhan/tʰan²¹³/
Chengdu/tʰan³¹/
Guiyang/tʰan²¹/
Kunming/tʰã̠³¹/
Nanjing/tʰʰaŋ²⁴/
Hefei/tʰæ̃⁵⁵/
JinTaiyuan/tʰæ̃¹¹/
Pingyao/tʰɑŋ¹³/
Hohhot/tʰæ̃³¹/
WuShanghai/de²³/
Suzhou/de̞¹³/
Hangzhou/dẽ̞²¹³/
Wenzhou/da³¹/
HuiShexian/tʰɛ⁴⁴/
Tunxi/tʰɔ⁴⁴/
XiangChangsha/tan¹³/
Xiangtan/dan¹²/
GanNanchang/tʰan²⁴/
HakkaMeixian/tʰam¹¹/
Taoyuan/tʰɑm¹¹/
CantoneseGuangzhou/tʰam²¹/
Nanning/tʰam²¹/
Hong Kong/tʰam²¹/
MinXiamen (Hokkien)/tam³⁵/
Fuzhou (Eastern Min)/taŋ⁵³/
Jian'ou (Northern Min)/tʰaŋ²¹/
Shantou (Teochew)/tʰam⁵⁵/
Haikou (Hainanese)/ham³¹/
Rime
Character談
Reading #1/1
Initial (聲)定 (7)
Final (韻)談 (143)
Tone (調)Level (Ø)
Openness (開合)Open
Division (等)I
Fanqie徒甘切
Baxterdam
Reconstructions
Zhengzhang
Shangfang		/dɑm/
Pan
Wuyun		/dɑm/
Shao
Rongfen		/dɑm/
Edwin
Pulleyblank		/dam/
Li
Rong		/dɑm/
Wang
Li		/dɑm/
Bernard
Karlgren		/dʱɑm/
Expected
Mandarin
Reflex		tán
Expected
Cantonese
Reflex		taam4
Baxter–Sagart system 1.1 (2014)
Character談
Reading #1/1
Modern
Beijing
(Pinyin)		tán
Middle
Chinese		‹ dam ›
Old
Chinese		/*lˁ[o]m/
Englishspeak

Notes for Old Chinese notations in the Baxter–Sagart system:

* Parentheses "()" indicate uncertain presence;
* Square brackets "[]" indicate uncertain identity, e.g. *[t] as coda may in fact be *-t or *-p;
* Angle brackets "<>" indicate infix;
* Hyphen "-" indicates morpheme boundary;

* Period "." indicates syllable boundary.
Zhengzhang system (2003)
Character談
Reading #1/1
No.14292
Phonetic
component		炎
Rime
group		談
Rime
subdivision		1
Corresponding
MC rime		談
Old
Chinese		/*l'aːm/

Definitions edit

談

  1. to talk; to converse
    面談／面谈  ―  miàntán  ―  to talk to someone face-to-face
    談判／谈判  ―  tánpàn  ―  to negotiate
  2. to discuss; to chat
    談論／谈论  ―  tánlùn  ―  to discuss
    談天／谈天  ―  tántiān  ―  to chat
  3. ⁜ remark; conversation
    奇談／奇谈  ―  qítán  ―  surprising remark
    趣談／趣谈  ―  qùtán  ―  amusing remark
  4. † to praise
  5. a surname

Compounds edit

References edit

Japanese edit

Kanji edit

談

(grade 3 “Kyōiku” kanji)

  1. story
  2. talk, conversation

Readings edit

Compounds edit

Korean edit

Hanja edit

談 (eumhun 말씀 담 (malsseum dam))

  1. Hanja form? of 담 (“conversation”).

Compounds edit

Vietnamese edit

Han character edit

談: Hán Nôm readings: đàm, giạm

  1. chữ Hán form of đàm.
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