richard A. Muller

Without addressing whether the other UC-Berkeley optics physicist Richard Muller needs a WP bio, note the similarities (emphasis added by Jerzy•t):

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Jonathan A Jones in topic Climate change

ToP Dab needed, still?

Muller">bio, note the similarities (emphasis added by Jerzyt):

    Biography: Richard S. Muller
    Richard Muller earned the degree of Mechanical Engineer at Stevens Institute of Technology in 1955. He then studied under Hughes and NSF Fellowships at the California Institute of Technology and was awarded an MS/EE in 1957 and a PhD (EE and Physics) in 1962. He was employed as a Member of the Technical Staff at Hughes Aircraft Company and taught at the University of Southern California before joining the faculty at the University of California, Berkeley where he concentrated his research on the physics of integrated-circuit devices. Together with Dr. T.I. Kamins of Hewlett-Packard Company, Dr Muller first published "Device Electronics for Integrated Circuits" in 1977. A 3rd edition of this book (which has been translated into five languages) was published in 2003. In the late 1970s, Muller began research in the area now known as MEMS and, together with Professor R.M. White, he founded the Berkeley Sensor & Actuator Center in 1986. He wrote the proposal to establish IEEE/ASME Journal of Microelectromechanical Systems (JMEMS) and is now the Editor-in-Chief of this journal. A member of the US National Academy of Engineering and an IEEE Life Fellow, Muller received a career MEMS Award at TRANSDUCERS '97 as well as the IEEE Brunetti Award (1998 with R.T. Howe), NATO and Fulbright Professorships, and a von Humboldt Research Award at TU Berlin in 1994. Other Awards include the Berkeley Citation and the Renaissance Award from Stevens Institute of Technology, where he served as Trustee 1996-2005. He has been a member of the National Materials Advisory Board and served on several National Research Council study panels as well as chairing a 1997 panel for which he acted as editor of a widely distributed report on the promises and challenges of MEMS. His present research focus is on optical MEMS.

What i am suggesting is even that the info i added at their Dab is not sufficient to rule out confusion, and the article may need a ToP Dab. (BTW, "born c. 1930" is based on typically 5-year eng'g degrees around the 1950's: finishing HS at 18 suggests EE at 25, and thus 1930 most likely YOB.)

Better Picture?

I think this would be a much better picture to use:

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2007/10/images/mullermug.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by RevenDS (talkcontribs) 00:59, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature

Should certainly be mentioned prominently. MikeR613 (talk) 16:24, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Removal of Image

I have removed one image from the article for three reasons:

1) It interrupts the flow of the text, causing formatting issues.
2) It contributes little of value to the article.
3) There is too little text to sustain three images.

I have reproduced the image below. --Baekken (talk) 01:06, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

File:Lesson.png
A lesson with Richard Muller

Add "I Stick to Science": Why Richard A. Muller wouldn't tell House climate skeptics what they wanted to hear by Michael D. Lemonick (Michael Lemonick) May 25, 2011 Scientific American. 99.181.158.51 (talk) 03:29, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

A colleague of mine drew my attention to some of the issues that were raised by Anthony Watts, who was showing that many of the stations that recorded temperature were poorly sited, that they were close to building and heat sources. I also separately learned of work done by Steve McIntyre up in Canada, who looked at the “hockey stick” data [the data behind a 1999 graph showing temperatures remaining more or less steady for 1,000 years, then rising sharply in the 20th century, like the blade of a hockey stick]. I reviewed the paper that the hockey stick was based on, and I became very uncomfortable. I felt that the paper didn’t support the chart enough. A few years later, McIntyre came out and, indeed, showed that the hockey-stick chart was in fact incorrect. It had been affected by a very serious bug in the way scientists calculated their principal components. So I was glad that I had done that.

Given the favorable things you’ve said about climate science critics such as Watts and McIntyre, do you think you were called to testify because Committee Chair Ralph M. Hall thought you’d come down against the mainstream consensus? Before my testimony, there were news articles in prominent newspapers already claiming that I had a bias, that I had an agenda. I don’t know where they got this from. Well, I can guess. I think they were predicting what I was going to say in the hopes of discounting it when it came out. I’m not even going to guess at the Republican committee chair’s motivations. Having testified before Congress, I have a sense that most members of Congress are serious, that they are thoughtful, that if they have a point of view that disagrees with what you call the mainstream, it’s because there have been legitimate skeptics who have raised real issues that have not necessarily been answered. I don’t care whether I’m speaking to a Republican or a Democrat; science is nonpartisan. And I believe that my refuge is sticking to the science. I have no agenda. I have no political reasons for saying one thing or the other. I stick to the science. I think that’s what I’m good at. And if I say something that’s surprising, that’s good. That adds to the discussion.

Do you consider yourself a climate skeptic?

No—not in the way that the term is used. I consider myself properly skeptical in the way every scientist would be. But people use the term “skeptic,” and unfortunately, they mix it in with the term “denier.” Now, there are climate deniers. I won’t name them, but people know who they are. These are people who pay no attention to the science but just cherry-pick the data that were incorrectly presented and say there’s no there there.

I include among the skeptics people such as Watts and McIntyre, who are doing, in my opinion, a great service to the community by asking questions that are legitimate, doing a great deal of work in and out—that is something that is part of the scientific process.

Also see Climate change policy of the United States and Global warming controversy (with Media coverage of climate change). 99.181.128.190 (talk) 08:26, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Add http://www.scientificamerican.com/jun02011/muller-hearing

Add http://www.scientificamerican.com/jun02011/muller-hearing 99.181.149.175 (talk) 04:05, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikilink "inner solar system" (in contrast with more general solar system). 99.119.130.14 (talk) 02:40, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

    Inner solar system is an inherently misleading redirect. I don't think it should be deleted as a redirect, but it should never be used. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 06:28, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Undelete LA Times article from 31.March.2011 on Muller.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-berkeley-climate-20110331,0,2472031.story "'Berkeley scientists' climate data review puts them at center of national debate: The head of the study, a longtime critic of the global warming consensus, will testify before a House panel. Leading climate scientists worry that the project, funded in part by an oil billionaire's foundation, has an agenda.]"; note, see Political activities of the Koch family for oil billionaires Koch family, March 31, 2011.

64.27.194.74 (talk) 18:51, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Undelete April 4th LA Times article on Muller.

Critics' review unexpectedly supports scientific consensus on global warming: A UC Berkeley team's preliminary findings in a review of temperature data confirm global warming studies, see related Talk:Tea Party movement and fossil fuel industry financers April 4, 2011

64.27.194.74 (talk) 18:52, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

    Why? Not by or really about Muller, and basically the same subject as the previous one. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 23:25, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
      An excerpt ...

      The Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project was launched by physics professor Richard Muller, a longtime critic of government-led climate studies, to address what he called "the legitimate concerns" of skeptics who believe that global warming is exaggerated. But Muller unexpectedly told a congressional hearing last week that the work of the three principal groups that have analyzed the temperature trends underlying climate science is "excellent.... We see a global warming trend that is very similar to that previously reported by the other groups." The hearing was called by GOP leaders of the House Science & Technology committee, who have expressed doubts about the integrity of climate science. It was one of several inquiries in recent weeks as the Environmental Protection Agency's efforts to curb planet-heating emissions from industrial plants and motor vehicles have come under strenuous attack in Congress. Muller said his group was surprised by its findings, but he cautioned that the initial assessment is based on only 2% of the 1.6 billion measurements that will eventually be examined. The Berkeley project's biggest private backer, at $150,000, is the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation. Oil billionaires Charles and David Koch are the nation's most prominent funders of efforts to prevent curbs on the burning of fossil fuels, the largest contributor to planet-warming greenhouse gases. The $620,000 project is also partly funded by the federal Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, where Muller is a senior scientist. Muller said the Koch foundation and other contributors will have no influence over the results, which he plans to submit to peer-reviewed scientific journals.

      Need more? 99.181.135.177 (talk) 06:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Not all editors are writing to you Art ... Regarding "see related", note move to Talk:Tea Party movement/Archive 15 of Talk:Tea_Party_movement/Archive_15#Add_Opposition_ ... 99.109.127.11 (talk) 02:39, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Undelete Scientific American reprint of 2011 Muller interview.

ClimateProgress.org reprint of Scientific American interview

64.27.194.74 (talk) 18:54, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Of interest? Views on the Assigned Hearing Charter (Lesson 9)

Views on the Assigned Hearing Charter (Lesson 9) by Stephen Richard Kubick on July 14, 2011, on Pennsylvania State University website ... excerpt:

Dr. J. Scott Armstrong, Mr. Peter Glaser, Dr. John Christy (see previous subsection in this wp Talk), Dr. Kerry Emanuel, and Dr. David Montgomery all disagree with the idea of a clear and verified increase in global climate temperatures [5][3][6][2][1]. Of the six witnesses, Dr. Richard Muller is the only one to not present a clear position going into the hearing, either for or against taking action on climate change [4]. I was not able to find the full transcript of this hearing, but it is important to note that Dr. Muller's testimony is not summarized in the chairman's press release on the hearing, along with that of Dr. Emanuel and Dr. Armstrong [7]. I can understand why Chairman Hall would be inclined to accept testimony from those skeptical of climate change, but I also feel that it would have given the hearing more credibility to include witnesses who are more accepting of this scientific area of great concern. ...

Note: presumably David R. Montgomery, other wikilinks assumed also. 99.181.156.173 (talk) 01:18, 21 July 2011 (UTC)


Why was this removed?

In March, 2011, he testified to the U.S. House Science, Space and Technology Committee that preliminary data confirmed an overall warming trend, startling Republican committee members who had invited him and expected to hear the opposite conclusion.

99.181.141.252 (talk) 03:15, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Results are in for Project Earth

Turns out they think the earth is warming too. http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/10/climate-skeptics-perform-independent-analysis-finally-convinced-earth-is-getting-warmer.ars?comments=1#comments-bar. This may be relevant for the article. IRWolfie- (talk)

New York Times resource

Global Warming Indeed Under Way, Contrarian Panel Says October 20, 2011, 3:08 PM ... A team at the University of California Berkeley that set out to test the temperature data underlying the consensus on global warming has concluded that the mainstream estimate of the rise in the earth’s surface temperature since 1950 is indeed accurate. It has warmed about 1 degree Centigrade (1.8 degrees Fahrenheit), the researchers say. The data sets and research papers are here, along with charts and a video. See http://www.berkeleyearth.org/

For related wikipedia discussion, see Talk:Global_warming#New_study_.28from_BEST.29_confirms_warming_trend

99.35.15.107 (talk) 04:50, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Moved from my talk page: Richard A Muller revert

Sorry for the revert, but one can clearly see that Dr Muller contradicts himself when you compare what he says now to what he said in his own book "Physics for Future Presidents". Frotz (talk) 07:16, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Please discuss your additions before adding them. You can not produce a synthesis of two sources to infer something. Also newsbusters is unreliable, this should not be used as a source. As an aside: his work was on the Hockey stick graph of which he was skeptical. IRWolfie- (talk) 20:23, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

I updated the article to reflect what his skepticism was directed at from the sources (Hockey stick graph). IRWolfie- (talk) 22:32, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

I've removed the skepticism category from the article, we don't have anything in the article that gives weight to him being skeptical about anything. His past issues with the Hockey stick graph doesn't mean he is skeptical about global warming. IRWolfie- (talk) 23:09, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

resource The Atlantic

Richard Muller "Brave Thinkers 2011: November 2011" by Kenneth Brower "A scientist, suspicious of manipulated climate-change data, bucks expectations and presents the evidence for man-made global warming.", page 60 in print. Excerpt ...

Before he leaned into a congressional microphone in March of this year, Richard Muller was drawing fire from one side of the climate-change debate. Afterward, he was drawing fire from the other.

Muller’s project is funded in part by the foundation of one of the oil-billionaire Koch brothers, and his invitation to testify this spring before the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology was orchestrated by Republicans.

In his testimony, he cited data indicating that the Earth had warmed 0.7 degree Celsius since 1957, with man-caused warming contributing 0.6 degree C.

Also see funding of partisans in "climate change controversy". 97.87.29.188 (talk) 21:49, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

/* Hockey stick graph controversy */

The following statement is what inspired me to edit this section.
In October 2011, Muller changes his position on the Hockey stick graph in an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal....

That statement is demonstrably false. The hockey stick controversy involves the proxy record for temperatures before the modern instrument era. The op-ed in the Wall Street Journal concerns his work on the BEST project, which is only concerned with verifying the modern temperature record and does not delve into the proxy record whatsoever. Nowhere in the article does he state that he has "changed his position" on the hockey stick. The changes I have made are direct quotes that come from Richard Muller, from the source already cited concerning his criticism of the hockey stick. Cardin Drake (talk) 14:36, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Taking on the climate

There's an interesting two page interview with Muller in the April 2012 issue of Physics World. As the title suggests it is centered on his recent climate work and commentary, though about half of it is general. Sadly I don't think there's a copy online. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 15:51, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Add BBC reference

108.195.136.231 (talk) 05:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Why was Criticism removed?

William Connolley called Muller's BEST study rubbish, saying they hadn't added any knowledge to what had been done before. Michael Mann stated Muller’s BEST essentially confirmed results from existing studies, adding little new to our state of knowledge.

64.109.54.142 (talk) 22:02, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Muller and Associates?

Website linked to appears to be a law firm and not an energy consulting business. No other source is given. This link and the relevant text from the article should be fixed or removed. Maybe a historical version was more accurate? Or maybe Muller and Associates has changed its business... I do not know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jraudhi (talkcontribs) 13:53, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Still a professor?

Re "professor of physics": He is retired. Is he still a professor? Shouldn't it be "former professor of physics"?

--Mortense (talk) 17:05, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Climate change

The climate change is a hodgepodge of unconnected information. After reading it, I first thought that Muller had been convinced by McIntyre and McKitrick (section "Hockey stick graph") and then changed his mind and accepted the consensus (section "Berkeley Earth"). But then I noticed that the sources for the second section are actually older than the ones for the first one, which would mean that the second section is obsolete.

That said, the Hockey stick section is too detailed, and a mainstream view on McIntyre and McKitrick is needed. The "Criticism" section on this Talk page complains about exactly that being deleted, so I will reinstate it and exchange the sections. --Hob Gadling (talk) 11:13, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

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