anthony Albanese
How can he be the incumbent Leader if he doesn't take office until 30 May? Constant Pedant (talk) 11:01, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
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Silly editing
Labor Right editing Anthony Albanese's page
The Labor Right seems to be trying to edit Anthony Albanese's page citing that Anthony Albanese has a relationship with CFMMEU, which as we now know John Setka the construction union's Victorian boss will be pleading guilty to harassing women (https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/no-relationship-albanese-distances-himself-from-cfmmeu-s-john-setka-20190608-p51vst.html) 120.29.48.224 (talk) 14:34, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Anothony Albanese Picture
Can we please get a better picture for Alabanese? The current one looks nothing like him, and I wouldn't guess it was him based on the image. I know there are problems in trying to use his image from Parliament website, but his current one is outdated and a newer one is required. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shcmilly (talk • contribs) 11:43, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Heres a recent video on his official channel that could potentially provide a relatively high quality, recent picture. I'd love to edit it, but my account is too new. I noticed Justin Trudeu's most recent picture comes from a video on his own channel, so I assume the legality regarding using the picture would be simmilar in this case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GVeyvzoQPU Mirak3131 (talk) 11:49, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hi User:Shcmilly, User:Mirak3131, unfortunately Wikipedia only uses freely licensed images for biographies of living people. So that YouTube video would not qualify as it does not specify its copyright status. One way to get a better/newer image or official portrait would be to contact his office and request permission for one to be used, under the procedure outlined here. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 14:08, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
New image for article
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There was discussion last year about finding a better, more recent photo of Albanese. This is a freely licensed image that I took in October that could be used: 20201018 Albanese Council Flat.jpg Ted86 (talk) 00:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
I'd have to agree with last year's post that the photo looks nothing like him. Yours is definitely a better choice. Nearlyevil665 (talk) 17:42, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
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Category:Australian republicans 112.213.221.91 (talk) 14:31, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Arbëreshë heritage
His paternal Surname indicates his father would Be Albanian-Italian. (Arbëreshë people) 144.138.55.211 (talk) 21:24, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Your source for this? -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 23:27, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
A quick search has come up with many references to the Albanese name (meaning 'Albanian'), which is a very common surname in southern Italy. Albanese has a single reference, which is in Italian and the page referenced is not available online. It would be an interesting fact to add to the page, if something more concrete about the name/his ancestry could be found.Siegfried Nugent (talk) 00:07, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Do we have any sources that actually say this? I don't think making assumptions based on his last name are good enough if this is not actually documented by any sources. Endwise (talk) 01:06, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- I think this is trivia.--Jack Upland (talk) 03:10, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Also, I don't think we can say Albanians are "indigenous" to South Italy.Jack Upland (talk) 08:08, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
In "Private life" section, improve style by removing tautological language
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Where it refers to the other driver in the car accident: "17-year-old teen" remove the word "teen" 120.17.202.152 (talk) 22:34, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Proposed Paragraph on election campaign
I propose the addition of the following paragraph about Albanese's first week of campaigning:
The 2022 Australian federal election was called on April 10 2022. Albanese's first week of campaigning was defined by a series of gaffes and mistakes. On the first day of the campaign, Albanese was unable to recall Australia's unemployment or cash rate. On the second day of the campaign, Albanese falsely claimed that he was an economic advisor to former prime minister Bob Hawke, a statement he had to clarify the following day. Albanese was a research officer for labor minister Tom Uren, who was not in Hawke's cabinet and who was not responsible for any of the Hawke government's economic reforms. On the third day of the campaign, Albanese said that his policy to trial Medicare urgent care clinics was fully costed by the Parliamentary Budget Office. He later had to retract this statement, as the $135 million policy had actually not been costed by the PBO. On the fourth day of the campaign, he said that Australia would no longer need offshore detention. He had to clarify this the following day, stating that labor has no plans to wind back offshore detention. This troubled first week of the campaign was described as "poor" by many commentators, and Albanese's competence came under question.
This paragraph contains only factual statements, and every claim is supported by a relevant citation. Please explain what is wrong with this paragraph.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hidwah (talk • contribs)
- Wiki articles should be edited from a neutral point of view. This is about as one-sided as you can get – it's not like Albanese is universally derided by the media. Also, this is far too much detail for one week in what will be more than a month campaigning for the upcoming election. Endwise (talk) 05:15, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- The only opinion in the paragraph is the final sentence. The rest of it consists entirely of factual statements, each of which has a citation. The final sentence also has a citation, but i am happy to remove the sentence if it makes you feel more comfortable. Hidwah (talk) 05:19, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- You want to include "Albanese's first week of campaigning was defined by a series of gaffes and mistakes." Defined? Only by some on the right in the media. (Which sadly in Australia's case is most of it.) That is pure opinion. You're new here. You are making mistakes at many levels. (For example, you did not correctly sign your first comment in this section.) I strongly recommend stepping back for a while and watching how others comment on politics here. HiLo48 (talk) 05:38, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- Even though i'm new to Wikipedia, i can still make edits. Please explain what is wrong with the way i signed my comment. I agree with you that the first sentence could be considered biased. Would it be better if the word "defined" was replaced with "contained"? I don't want this to be hostile, i just want to make constructive improvements to the article. If i am making mistakes with how i'm using wikipedia, please let me know what they are. Hidwah (talk) 05:42, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm getting sick of this. You are lying. You DO want it to be hostile, to Albanese. That is far more obvious than it should be. Wait, watch and learn. HiLo48 (talk) 06:12, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- What i have written is factual. This is a revised version, with all potential opinionated statements removed:
- The 2022 Australian federal election was called on April 10 2022. Albanese's first week of campaigning contained a number of gaffes and mistakes. On the first day of the campaign, Albanese was unable to recall Australia's unemployment or cash rate. On the second day of the campaign, Albanese falsely claimed that he was an economic advisor to former prime minister Bob Hawke, a statement he had to clarify the following day. Albanese was a research officer for labor minister Tom Uren, who was not in Hawke's cabinet and who was not responsible for any of the Hawke government's economic reforms. On the third day of the campaign, Albanese said that his policy to trial Medicare urgent care clinics was fully costed by the Parliamentary Budget Office. He later had to retract this statement, as the $135 million policy had actually not been costed by the PBO. On the fourth day of the campaign, he said that Australia would no longer need offshore detention. He had to clarify this the following day, stating that labor has no plans to wind back offshore detention.
- This version contains no opinions, only facts. I have a citation for every single claim. If you want to add additional facts about his first week, feel free. Hidwah (talk) 06:19, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- Far too many claims. And every single one of them was a negative about Albanese. Did he do nothing right? Your hatred is far to apparent. HiLo48 (talk) 07:17, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- They aren't claims, they're facts. I see nothing wrong with what i've written. Hidwah (talk) 07:21, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- I repeat, did Albanese do nothing right? And do you EVER read Edit summaries? HiLo48 (talk) 07:46, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- What edit summaries? Hidwah (talk) 07:53, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yes Albanese has done things right, and there's plenty of information about those things already on the page. You are welcome to add more. I am simply adding information about the widely reported mistakes he made during his first week of campaigning. Hidwah (talk) 07:55, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. ONLY the "mistakes". I repeat, did Albanese do nothing right DURING THAT WEEK? HiLo48 (talk) 10:00, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- He did, but the mistakes came to define the week for him. Every mainstream outlet in Australia came to the conclusion that he made a multitude of mistakes in his first week, and that his campaign got off to a rocky start.
- https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/albanese-s-poor-first-week-of-campaigning-raises-big-questions-20220415-p5ado5.html - "he has comprehensively blown the first campaign week."
- https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-15/election-albanese-morrison-tables-turned/100993738 - "Now he has comprehensively blown the first campaign week."
- https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/blunders-and-gatecrashers-anthony-albanese-and-scott-morrisons-first-week-on-the-campaign-trail/kldi6kwjb - "Opposition leader Anthony Albanese stumbled out of the gates on Monday, floundering over the unemployment rate and the cash rate at his first press conference."
- https://www.9news.com.au/national/federal-election-2022-first-week-of-scott-morrison-anthony-albanese-campaign-chris-uhlmann-analysis/489f6059-f7ed-469e-af06-fe04ba1200ce - "certainly the worst start to a campaign I've ever seen"
- https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/analysis/risky-strategy-brutal-lessons-after-anthony-albaneses-week-from-hell/news-story/6ae56f7d013c26bb35eec404d26b343a - "Anthony Albanese’s week from hell" Hidwah (talk) 10:13, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. ONLY the "mistakes". I repeat, did Albanese do nothing right DURING THAT WEEK? HiLo48 (talk) 10:00, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- I repeat, did Albanese do nothing right? And do you EVER read Edit summaries? HiLo48 (talk) 07:46, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- They aren't claims, they're facts. I see nothing wrong with what i've written. Hidwah (talk) 07:21, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- None of this is important enough for this article. Onetwothreeip (talk) 08:31, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Far too many claims. And every single one of them was a negative about Albanese. Did he do nothing right? Your hatred is far to apparent. HiLo48 (talk) 07:17, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm getting sick of this. You are lying. You DO want it to be hostile, to Albanese. That is far more obvious than it should be. Wait, watch and learn. HiLo48 (talk) 06:12, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- Even though i'm new to Wikipedia, i can still make edits. Please explain what is wrong with the way i signed my comment. I agree with you that the first sentence could be considered biased. Would it be better if the word "defined" was replaced with "contained"? I don't want this to be hostile, i just want to make constructive improvements to the article. If i am making mistakes with how i'm using wikipedia, please let me know what they are. Hidwah (talk) 05:42, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- You want to include "Albanese's first week of campaigning was defined by a series of gaffes and mistakes." Defined? Only by some on the right in the media. (Which sadly in Australia's case is most of it.) That is pure opinion. You're new here. You are making mistakes at many levels. (For example, you did not correctly sign your first comment in this section.) I strongly recommend stepping back for a while and watching how others comment on politics here. HiLo48 (talk) 05:38, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Would it not be best to add such info (if it's added) to the 2022 Australian federal election article? GoodDay (talk) 18:01, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
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Albanese has voted for a bill that would allow discrimination against transgender discrimination
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/grayndler/anthony_albanese/policies/214 Kfj5555555 (talk) 01:01, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:44, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Jodie
Does Jodie deserve her own page or not? Right now there is a link to it that loops back to this page. Of course if the page wasn't LOCKED DOWN I could have fixed it myself.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.11.225.27 (talk) 22:54, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
No inclusion of reference to his iconic high-pitched, low-testosterone lisp accent?
The high-pitched, low-testosterone lisp accent is an integral part of his personal brand and appeal, should this not be included? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.240.228.252 (talk) 00:39, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- "No inclusion of reference" says it all really. --Canley (talk) 00:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- His father was Italian. There are more tenor voices among Italians. So the pitch of the voice has nothing to do with anything. I would have preferred the mentioning of his involvement with the Australian-American Leadership Dialogue because that influences politics, especially when someone is in such a high position like PM. 2001:8003:A070:7F00:CDC0:24AB:9963:7B31 (talk) 04:30, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
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For albos postnominal, it should be MP, not PM. Can someone change it to MP please. TheEditorInChiefofAU (talk) 03:55, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Where exactly are you requesting this change? In the infobox it already shows PM Cannolis (talk) 05:22, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, look at his postnomial, it says pm. It needs to be changed to MP (the postnomial) TheEditorInChiefofAU (talk) 07:33, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
Parents query
We say: "His parents met in March 1962 on a voyage from Sydney to Southampton, England, ... but did not continue their relationship afterwards, going their separate ways". He was born in March 1963.
How long did a voyage from Sydney to England take in 1962? I'm sure it was much less than three months; but they met a full year before Albo's birth, which would mean an extraordinarily long pregnancy.
Can anyone clarify this? -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 12:10, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thinking this through after a night's sleep.
- Say they met at the end of March 1962.
- Say the voyage took about 6 weeks, which from a google search seems to be a common voyage length if it included stops (eg. Colombo, Bombay, Aden, Capetown).
- And say the conception occurred at the very end of the voyage, around the middle of May 1962.
- That still leaves a gestation period of nine and a half months. Not unprecedented, but on the unlikely side of things. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 22:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- It's a vague sentence. It doesn't necessarily mean they parted the minute the boat landed. The Drover's Wife (talk) 01:54, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Albanese's parents were involved for more than a single voyage, they went back and forth several times - his mother was tagging along with his uncle who was an entertainer on the ship. It's explained in more detail in the Middleton bio, I'll try and add further info at some point. ITBF (talk) 02:15, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 02:51, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Pretty amusing to call it a relationship. 124.170.121.202 (talk) 03:02, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Major problem with the current Description
So, using “since” in this phrase is I’m sure well-intended, but it just doesn’t work. ‘Since’ is versatile (and therefore complicated). It can be used as an adverb, a conjunction, or a preposition. In this case, it shows as a preposition meaning ‘after’ and that just doesn’t scan. It reads like ‘Australia has had 31 PM’s since 2022’ — obviously not the intent. I’m sorry my edit to ‘elected’ was not satisfactory (and I certainly did not intend to offend), but it’s fine if that’s not good enough: there are lots of ways this could corrected. Just reverting to the prior version, however, leaves it as a bad read — something better needs to be crafted. (This BLP has certainly generated a lot of Talk over the years; now that he’s in the top job, his Article deserves top quality editing.) Left Central (talk) 04:56, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
UPDATE: My first effort at correcting the grammatical error in the description was wrong. With research, I discovered that we have a standardized WP format for a proper Description here. I just completed going through and adapting the descriptions as needed for all 20 Prime Ministers in our encyclopedia. Left Central (talk) 15:03, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
FOLLOW-UP — 2 items: 1) The WP standard format for Description for these 20 BLPs is “Prime Minister of [Nation] since [year]”. 2) Nine of the 20 Descriptions were in EXACTLY that format. I corrected the other 11 for WP consistency. All the changes were minor in context (although I rarely designate edits as “m”; that often seems overused). They all include a detailed edit summary.
Thanks to everyone who works to make our encyclopedia such a wonderful resource!
Cheers, Left Central (talk) 15:26, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
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During the lead up to the 2022 federal election Anthony appeared on the popular Five Of My Life podcast https://omny.fm/shows/the-five-of-my-life/anthony-albanese during which he stated his most treasured possession was his beloved dog Toto 188.94.80.202 (talk) 16:25, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:38, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
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Climate change views - no source
In the paragraph describing his views on climate change (fourth paragraph) there is no source saying he does not supportive of enough action to be in line with the Paris agreement, which is disputable to say the least. 218.215.226.53 (talk) 09:40, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
First Italian Australian to become prime minister
He isn't exactly Italian, and I can't see a source that says this.--Jack Upland (talk) 10:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- It's a particularly tenuous claim, seemingly trying to assign American style attributes to an Australian. Yes, his dad was Italian, but wasn't even mentioned on his birth certificate. Double barrelled labels such as Italian Australian are rarely used in Australia. He was born in Sydney. Grew up in Sydney. Pretty sill really. HiLo48 (talk) 11:04, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- The only sources I can find are describing him as the first PM with a non Anglo-Celtic family name and background.[1][2] "First non-Anglo-Celtic" (referring to cultural background) is probably a better phrase than "First Italian". Catiline52 (talk) 11:29, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- What exactly is his "background"? He was brought up by his mother in Sydney. What makes him different to Chris Watson?--Jack Upland (talk) 05:23, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
