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Is it possible to have an alternate version with the commonwealth spelling of colour? It seems weird that the flag of Canada has an incorrect (Canadian English) spelling on it. -- Earl Andrew - talk 05:24, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Can someone think of a spelling-neutral alternative for "color"? PoccilScript 01:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
To me, the "Design" section of the infobox is not good in this case, as it is not an option, you must use it, which shouldn't be like that. Also, the design can clearly be seen on the image of the flag, and the design is mentioned in the article. A•N•N•A hi! 01:35, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
The layout is fine, but I just think having 2 or more flags in one infobox is pretty huge, especially for many flag articles are just stubs now. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:43, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Here's how the Dictionary of Vexillology at Flags of the World defines national flag:
The primary definition, (1), is the one I'm using: a national flag is a flag that represents a nation. A civil flag, government ensign, or war flag are all varieties of national flag in this sense. The tertiary definition, (3), is the one you're using: of the national flags that represent a nation, the one that is used by default (I think this includes "the Olympics, UN, state functions" that you mention). It's from this sense that we can talk of "the national flag of Japan" as if there is only one (the hinomaru) and not three.
I think the present infobox layout (and by extension, scheme for a "Flag of (Country)" article), well represents the situation, in all its complexity: the overall box is titled "Flag of (County)" because all the flags listed within are in fact national flags of that country. However, not all are "created equal" so to speak: they are listed in an order that puts the default flag first. --ScottMainwaring 17:00, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
in front of the Morenames value to accomplish this. But that turns out not to help the Japan article; I think the problem is due to ANNAfoxlover's edit to Template:National flag entry increasing the flag size. I think the infobox would look better — especially if it includes multiple flags — with a smaller image width/height for the flag. --ScottMainwaring 19:28, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I need a place to move this template to. The title "Infobox national flag" gives the impression that the template is only for national flags. I would move it to "FlagBox", which is currently being used by a template for deletion, but I would like some more simple suggestions. ANNAfoxlover 21:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
My edit here was mistaken as at first glance I thought this edit by ANNAfoxlover had changed the thumbnail size rather than the table size. 240px is fairly standard for infoboxes, though I wouldn't object a higher size such as 300px considering the design parameter value generally takes up several lines. –Pomte 06:22, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
This template currently places articles in the category "{{{type}}} flags". In general, these are national flags and are places in Category:National flags. However, when the flag is not a national flag, there is often no appropriate category "XXX flags", and the page only belongs in something like "Flags of Australia". I think it would be better to remove the category from the template, and leave categorisation to the normal part of the article. JPD (talk) 12:50, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I just wondered whether we really need the word "Infobox" in the template name. Would it not be clearer to have this template at Template:National flag? Green Giant (talk) 11:27, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Actually I have noticed that there are a large number of flag articles using this template for entities which are not nations. Would it not be more appropriate to rename as Template:Infobox flag so that it could become a generic template rather than being restricted to national flags? Green Giant (talk) 11:36, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Please help This template is apparently causing an unnecessary line break (or two?) at the beginning of articles where it is transcluded (e.g. Flag of Andalusia.) Can someone please fix this? Post on my talk if you need me. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:33, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
When there are two flags in the infobox, the 2nd flag does not show, instead a part of the wiki code are shown. See Flag of Norway or Flag of Sweden. Could someone with template knowledge look into it? Thanks. —Helland (talk) 21:53, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Would be possible to add to the box attributes the html's codes for the colors, as #00FF00, thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.232.152.78 (talk) 17:38, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Why is {{FIAV}} incorporated into this template's usage at articles like Flag of Iowa? The usage symbols are exceedingly cryptic and add nothing to the information in the infobox. I suggest that they be removed from the infobox. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 18:49, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
When multiple flags are used within the same template, it automatically applies the caption "Variant flag of {Article|} {Name|}". This should not be done, as multiple flags may be used that are not necessarily variant flags For example Flag of Seychelles has two additional flags in the infobox that are clearly not variants, but former flags. I think this text should be removed and not automatically and possibly incorrectly caption image2 and so on, but obviously there may be some pages where it's desired. What do others think? Reywas92Talk 21:33, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
At least in the Flag of Peru article (and this looks to be due to the template somehow), the "use" note for the war flag is linked as "War flag" ([[War flag|War]] [[flag]]). the link to the flag article is really rather pointless and the linking of just the word "war" incorrectly implies that there is not an article about war flags but that you will be taken to an article about the concept of war. This linking would much better as simply "War flag" ([[War flag]]). Thryduulf (talk) 11:27, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
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. I agree links to flag and ensign can be removed, though what should we do with uses like "State and war flag"? "State and war flag", "State and war flag" or even "State flag and war flag"? SiBr4 (talk) 12:30, 3 December 2014 (UTC) Can we please get {{FIAV}} back into the template? The other-language wikipedias use it in their flag templates, and I believe it adds to the ability to understand the flag's type of use better than is currently available. I would have opposed it's removal in 2012 had I seen Philosopher's request and subsequent action. Fry1989 eh? 01:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Currently, it is not clear at first glance that this template is referring to a flag. For example, looking at the UN example on the template page, it looks like an infobox on the UN, since "United Nations" is depicted at the top with no mention of the flag, with the flag just below as it's symbol. However, if you look at the United Nations template, it says "United Nations" at the top with the flag immediately below as well, exactly the same as the flag template. This makes it look like the flag template is covering the "entity" in question, and not the flag.
I propose that the entity parameter be modified to be the flag instead, ie "flag". A parameter could be added such as "represents" or something similar underneath where the organization or country could go instead. That way the template would have Flag of X at the top, with "United Nations", or "Country" below it to make it clear what exactly this template is supposed to be about.
Now I'm not a template guru, so I'm not sure what the options are to make the transition seamless, or if it's really viable at all, for example leaving the "entity" parameter but just moving it down would perhaps leave it not having to be modified afterwards, I'm not sure. trackratte (talk) 18:41, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
I must concur with all of the above; the infobox isn't clear enough on what it's summarising. The header should read "Flag of [x]", either by making "Flag of" a permanent fixture and the name of the relevant nation is inserted into the "name" field or the documentation is changed to direct editors to put "Flag of [x]" into the "name" field, rather than "Name of entity", --₪ MIESIANIACAL 22:23, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Should the flag of A generals of a colonial army be that of the main country , the whole Empire or the colonial army he's commanding Consistency hobgoblin (talk) 05:25, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
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Please add the "Relinquished" parameter to all the data boxes. At the moment it's only on there for the first one. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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Please return the {{FIAV}} symbol that was removed in 2012 to the "use" section, but maintain the text descriptions as well, as per the two above discussions. Fry1989 eh? 17:03, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
|symbol=
parameter. My suggestion is that, if it is desired that all articles have the symbol next to the use text, is that the symbol parameter be replaced by a hardcoded {{FIAV}} template call which uses the code provided in the |use=
parameter.|symbol=
parameter would have to be specified with the code if |use=
was customised. To ensure that this would happen, a check would need to be done to ensure that the |use=
parameter was one of the allowed parameters to {{FIAV}}: if it was, use it and if it isn't raise an error if |symbol=
was not defined.|symbol=
parameter's content can only go next to "Use" currently, so this would only affect articles where the {{FIAV}} template has been placed next to other text). Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 22:35, 28 May 2019 (UTC) Greetings Friends!
Some flags have official Flag Days! Can we add this to the infobox? Many Thanks! Jonathan Ng 吳家明 16:25, 19 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ng556 (talk • contribs)
I have looked at a couple of articles recently with infoboxes that show several flags. I've just realised why I found them confusing, so request a light horizontal line between each block. For example, I was skimming articles looking for a particular image. I found it as the third flag in the infobox of Flag of Great Britain. When focused on that image, it is not immediately obvious whether to associate it with the "Use" above or below. A thin line between each block would remove the ambiguity. Has this been discussed before? Thanks. --Scott Davis Talk 10:48, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Why there is "United Nations" instead of "Flag of the United Nations" in an example of name parameter? Eurohunter (talk) 14:07, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
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I'm requesting that parameters "nickname2", "nickname3", and beyond be styled as infobox headers that come before the image of each additional flag. Additionally requesting that the automatic caption on second images and beyond ("Variant flag of [Name]") be removed. Similar requests have been mentioned in the talk page before. (request for horizontal separators and Variant flag)
For a use case, please see flag of Peru. The caption "Variant flag of the flag of Peru" is unhelpful and unspecific, and the actual label of the flags (e.g. "War flag of Peru") comes much later in an unemphasized way. Having names as headers for each flag will make infoboxes like this much more organized and clear. Not A Witty Fish 15:55, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
|NicknameN=
parameter has been resolved with an "if" parser function. Hesitate to change to "Use" as a header because that parameter is much more complicated in the /entry template. Maybe see how this new change looks and go from there? P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 04:03, 23 October 2022 (UTC) This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Description of suggested change: Now that there is a flag families page, I'd like to request an optional "Flag family" parameter to list which family flags belong to (if any).
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Description of suggested change: Add a parameter Emoji to Template:infobox flag/entry, for documenting the Unicode character combination for the flag emoji.
Diff: TBD — 08:45, 28 May 2023 (UTC)MathAfrique (talk)
What does it mean for a flag to be "Relinquished"? I might assume it is a polity switching to a new flag, but the word connotes something a bit harsher. Is a flag relinquished if the polity disappears instead? And does the terminology come from somewhere else or is it a novel invention here? Thanks, CMD (talk) 02:56, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
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