2023

There will obviously be moments later in the year that would replace some of those I'm about to mention. Anyway here's my suggestions:

The Turkish Earthquake

The Titan Implosion

Charles' coronation

The rise of AI

The spy balloon incident

The Israeli Judicial reform protests

The Wagner rebellion

The Sudanese conflict TRJ2008 (talk) 13:13, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Personally I am of the opinion we shouldn't have a dedicated discussion on the collage until say late-November or December. A lot can happen in another 6 months so I'd rather we just let it play out before we focus on the collage. That being said, in my opinion some of the events suggested I don't think reflect this year or at least aren't as impactful as others. The events in question that you have listed are; The Titan Implosion - It doesn't have any impact on much, Charles' Coronation - Debatable but is likely not going to get past voting, Spy Balloon - It was impactful but feel wasn't as notable as other events, Wagner Rebellion - Could be really impactful but I suggest just waiting and seeing how it pans out. CaptainGalaxy 14:41, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
We have already come to a concensus on the collage
We have added the earthquakes, the Brazillian congress attack, the banking crsis, and the ICC's arrest warrant for Putin. You can find the links to the images on the edit page. Thanks for trying DementiaGaming (talk) 15:28, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
When the end of the year is near, and people vote on photos to include, I happily volunteer to make this collage! The ganymedian (talk) 16:18, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
I agree, we should wait until the end of the year, I can't wait to see what the collage will look like. 4me689 (talk) 22:55, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
there is a collage discussion here, about a early version of the 2023 collage that was made, for anybody interested. 4me689 (talk) 20:57, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
If there's to be a collage, definitely include the 2023 Turkey–Syria earthquakes. X2023X (talk) 17:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
How the heck are you all trying to design a collage for 2023 and aren't talking about adding the genocide in Palestine? The ruins of Gaza MUST be included... 63.155.5.200 (talk) 20:30, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Should Rupert Murdoch retiring as chairman of News Corp and Fox merit an entry for this page? I'm looking for a consensus, because I've seen the entry added, then removed, then added--by others, not me. Does Murdoch deserve an entry on this page, or could this just belong on an article about developments in the media industry in 2023 for example?

Murdoch is a powerful individual whose media empire spans Australia, the UK, and the United States, but on the other hand he's not extremely well-known or a politician holding elected office, and his companies have significant competition. He is unique because he & his family own his media companies, while most of his competitors are publicly traded corporations. Murdoch's retirement will also not have a direct impact regarding the content from his companies (i.e. Sky News Australia, the Wall Street Journal, Fox News, the Sun, etc.) and I can't recall similar entries if other billionaires retire from their powerful and well-known companies (i.e. Jeff Bezos retiring as CEO but staying as Chairman of the board of Amazon or Bill Gates stepping down from Microsoft's board). JohnAdams1800 (talk) 04:03, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Strong include. "Not extremely well-known" - eh? Apart from being the most powerful media magnate in human history? And no, he wasn't "a politician holding elected office", but the influence of his media over elections, and politics in general, has been undeniably huge. Wjfox2005 (talk) 12:24, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
include, it's a big news story, definitely belongs on this page. 4me689 (talk) 20:50, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Include. Murdoch was one of the most powerful people on the planet, and his son Lachlan will soon be too now that he's going to own it. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 03:28, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Borderline Exclude because we don't include when other CEOs step down from influential organizations as you mentioned with both Gates and Bezos, and it won't have an effect the day to day of those organizations in any capacity though I am open to inclusion if there are good enough arguments in favor of it. PaulRKil (talk) 14:14, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Gates and Bezos did not have the same impact that the Murdochs had on world affairs despite running larger companies. This is most likely due to their actions being more focused on their industries, which while presenting exponential benefits to the consumer, did not topple governments or come close to toppling governments the same way the Murdochs did. If you would prefer consistency however I am open to inclusion. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 16:17, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Its a hard one to gauge for me but you make a good point, Murdoch is probably the most powerful media tycoon since William Randolph Hearst. I'm open to inclusion on that. PaulRKil (talk) 14:15, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Exclude - A person would have to be far more important than Murdoch is to justify his/her retirement being included as an "event". Deb (talk) 18:57, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
Exclude - Murdoch's businesses will continue. It'd have to be a head of state/gov or Pope for their retirement to be included. Businesspeople, sportspeople, entertainers etc. retiring aren't important enough. X2023X (talk) 17:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC) Blocked sock. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Should the 2023 Hanoi building fire be included on the page? While the death toll seems to be relatively high for this type of accident, there does not seem to be any further impact, both locally and globally. I would exclude, and removed the entry, but it was later re-added by another editor. Carter00000 (talk) 14:18, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Not really of note to the wider timeline of events, and has smaller due weight than other events both in impact and coverage. I would advocate for its exclusion for now. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 18:05, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Exclude because it didn't have as much due weight locally, much less globally. It would merit an entry for 2023 in Vietnam or an article about fire safety disasters in 2023 due to its death toll, but not this page. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 17:55, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
exclude, this is not really that known by the General Public. 4me689 (talk) 02:14, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Include, 50+ deaths, and the victims received condolences from the leaders of several other countries. Also, according to the Vietnamese Wikipedia article, there was a three-day suspension of activities in the area as a moment of silence for the victims. This is definitely more important than some things we do have in the article. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:11, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm curious why the recent events in the US house haven't been mentioned on this page. I feel like it's important to include given its rarity and impact on US politics.

I'm not a frequent Wikipedia editor, but I feel like American politics is rarely mentioned in these disambiguation pages? I understand not wanting Western politics to overrun the wiki, especially given the makeup of its editor base, but I think there's been a small over-correction. Or maybe I'm just biased myself lol :p Beccabecco (talk) 00:44, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Kevin McCarthy's removal was purely domestic politics and belongs in 2023 in the United States. Wjfox2005 (talk) 13:19, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
This is the article about 2023 for the whole world, not the United States or any other individual country. Only national events that have enough due weight internationally are featured on this page. General elections for individual countries are regularly featured on this page, but not domestic political events unless they are important enough to have a direct international impact. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 21:52, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
I second the comments made by Wjfox2005 and JohnAdams1800 - to include this event on the main 2023 page would be Americentrism, particularly as if this exact event happened in any other country, nobody would raise a peep/bring this up for debate at all. We have 2023 in the United States for this. TheScrubby (talk) 05:28, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
I would strongly disagree with the above comments and say VERY strong include the ouster of Kevin McCarthy. Just because 2023 in the United States exists doesn't mean that international notability should be reigned in yet again, see User:InvadingInvader/Against international notability. The exclusion of Kevin McCarthy's removal represents a failure to follow the Due Weight policies. Considering that this was the vote heard around the world, and reported by numerous sources including but not limited to NHK in Japan, DW in Germany, Al Jazeera and ArabNews from the Arab World, ABC in Australia, and The Wire in India, and further considering that all of these sources list the ouster as unprecedented, this domestic event has high importance in world history. To respond particularly to @TheScrubby in saying that the removal of Kevin McCarthy is Americentrism, what about Liz Truss in 2022? She was not too much more notable than McCarthy. One could say that her 45 days being included but not McCarthy's 270 days in the following year could actually be British-centrism. Moreover, if we include her but not McCarthy, that's not preventing Americentrism. It's fostering Anti-Americanism. May I remind you that Wikipedia articles are written from a neutral point of view, not biasing in favor of, or against, any country. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 17:45, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
I unequivocally reject any notion of “anti-Americanism” when I stand against Americentrism (and will continue to call out and stand against with such blatant examples, such as this). Kevin McCarthy was not a head of government or state, and his international equivalents would never be seriously considered for this page. This does not include Liz Truss; there is absolutely zero equivalence with Truss, who was Prime Minister and head of government of one of the world’s most powerful and influential countries. I’ve given my two cents, as has Wjfox2005 and JohnAdams1800, and I’m not about to get into any habit of WP:BLUDGEONING, so I’m not going to comment further on this thread. TheScrubby (talk) 23:35, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
VERY strong include. Hello, as someone we in living in Denmark, Europe, I can testify that McCarthy's removal was breaking news and I know – as @InvadingInvader has pointed out – that the same was the case in many other countries. Both Danish analysts (for instance here use Google Translate) as well as CNN here has pointed out that I might greatly impact U.S. aid to Ukraine. Here is also a mention in the mainstream Japanese newspaper Yomiuri Shimbun. I believe it should absolutely be reinserted into the article. Marginataen (talk) 19:45, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
Include, per the reasons given by those supporting inclusion above. Carter00000 (talk) 09:45, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
I've now put an updated version back in Marginataen (talk) 18:59, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
Also see the recent RFC on Wiki talk:WikiProject Years which actually ruled that we should be basing inclusion off of due weight. Another discussion on that page presently is actually discussing whether or not we are firmly deprecating international notability, and as Carter suggested below, whether it already was deprecated. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 20:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
Exclude. McCarthy's removal is not 'important in world history' and I have to agree with above that any comparison with Truss, the leader of a country, is ridiculous. Agree that this is a perfect entry on the 2023 in the United States for being a purely domestic political event. Yeoutie (talk) 14:31, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
I feel compelled to again remind participants that inclusion is not based on any arbitrary criteria but on the Due Weight policies, per WP:DUE. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 15:58, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
*Exclude because he hasn't been a head of state/gov & there's no chance that we'd include such an event in any other country. It's not even on 2023 in politics, so why should it be on here? X2023X (talk) 19:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Blocked sock. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
• Exclude on balance. Deb (talk) 15:52, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

• Include Speaker of the House is an important position, and this is a historic first that got a very large amount of international coverage. It's not like it's just the George Santos expulsion or something. Definitely not UNDUE. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:23, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
  Also, it was considered important enough to post at ITN, which counts for something. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
• Exclude Irrelevant in an international context. Yet another political drama. _-_Alsor (talk) 23:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

I recently added the Tornado outbreak of March 24–27, 2023, joined with the 2023 Rolling Fork–Silver City tornado to the list. This inclusion was reverted 22 hours later by Wjfox2005, saying it belonged in the 2023 in the United States article, which it already was. My inclusion was based on two parts: (1) the notability, which included local, state, and national responses, including the US National Guard being activated & (2) the shear size of media attention. It is common to include large, single-country disasters in the yearly article (not just country yearly article) if there is an extreme media attention. A few Google searches indicate over 500 media articles (Google news tab) from this event, just Googling “Rolling Fork tornado” (strongest/deadliest tornado of the event) and “Amory tornado” (Just one of 3 different EF3 tornadoes). The disaster article (parent) did appear on Wikipedia’s ITN section. While it wasn’t outside the United States, several international sources (dozens from those 2 Google searches only) came up, including this one by News Corp Australia, based on the opposite side of the world. Notability of the outbreak/stand-alone EF4 tornado article warrant inclusion on this list. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 20:09, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

@Wjfox2005: I'm wanting to ping you again, since you have reverted the edit once again. Can you discuss it here? The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 05:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
"...local, state, and national responses" – exactly. Not international. If the tornadoes had occurred along the U.S.-Canada or U.S.-Mexico borders, or if some sort of international response had occurred (e.g. overseas aid), you might have a case. Death toll of 26 is hardly notable for 2023. There are myriad other disasters around the world this year, some with much higher death tolls, that weren't included. Given your username, I suspect you may have a bias here ;-) Wjfox2005 (talk) 05:57, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
There wasn’t an international aid response, but there was international media response. Independent in the UK did an article about one of the tornadoes, not even the deadliest or strongest. Yet, it received international media attention. If this list truly requires an international response, then I can go on a short deletion spree since there is a good amount of single country events. I implore you do self-revert and re-add the tornado outbreak. Article from Australia and here is one from India. It is clear that there is hundreds of news articles about this tornado outbreak and dozens of international news articles from several countries. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 06:18, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
@Wjfox2005 This is a personal attack, Given your username, I suspect you may have a bias here ;-). and not helpful for this discussion. Carter00000 (talk) 09:24, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

• Support Inclusion. As mentioned by Weather Event Writer, the event appeared on WP:ITN after a nomination process with extensive discussion and participants, based around similar criteria to those we have here at the WP:YEARS pages.

I further note Wjfox2005 edit summary This was a DOMESTIC event. No international notability. Death toll wasn't high enough for inclusion on 2023. Cheers!. The use of such criteria was recently deprecated by consensus, following a ANI filing and sitewide RFC. Carter00000 (talk) 09:20, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
If that's the consensus now, then okay. And sorry for my personal attack @WeatherWriter. Feel free to re-add the entry. Wjfox2005 (talk) 10:18, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
Remove'. Just like that helicopter crash in Ukraine, 26 people is just not enough. Take the 2023 India floods, for example, which killed 400+ people but isn't on this page. DementiaGaming (talk) 00:08, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
DementiaGaming, see below for that inclusion discussion. I should note, there was an ANI filing followed by a large-scale RfC which deemed each event has it’s own DUE weight discussion to determine it, i.e. domestic-only events can be included. Do you have any other reason besides the invalid WP:OTHERSTUFF reasoning for exclusion of this event? The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 01:01, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
The outbreak also didn’t break any records as far as I’m aware, none of the tornadoes had a high wind speed or reached EF5 damage, and in my opinion tornadoes that don’t have EF5 damage shouldn’t be on these articles. DementiaGaming (talk) 01:11, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
That logic would exclude the 2011 Tuscaloosa–Birmingham tornado, which caused $2.4 billion in damage and is the 2nd costliest tornado in history (more than all but one EF5 tornado). That would also exclude the 2013 El Reno tornado, the widest tornado ever recorded in history. In all honesty, that is horrible reasoning. Well, you can have your opinions and reasoning, but to note, I obviously disagree with you, given the sheer international attention this outbreak and Rolling Fork tornado received. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 01:17, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
It's funny that you violate the same rule that you accused me of violating two comments ago on the same discussion. DementiaGaming (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
Mine is different as you stated “in my opinion tornadoes that don’t have EF5 damage shouldn’t be on these articles”, and I just pointed out how tornadoes with costlier damage totals than EF5s & the record-widest tornado in global history wouldn’t make that cut. I didn’t call you out on OTHERSTUFF, just made a point-blank observation. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 19:39, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
(P.S.) To tack on, it has huge WP:LASTING effects, with even a full-on Washington Post article a week ago on it. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 01:20, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

I would also like to suggest changing the date format of this article to the DMY format (e.g. 6 June 2020 as opposed to June 6, 2020).The DMY format seems more international and more suitable for a "global" article like. Also DMY simply makes more sense as it goes from smallest to highest.

On the project page, I've presented a similar proposal to use DMY in general for articles on "generic" years, but would also like it create consensus for it specifically on this article about 2023.

. Marginataen (talk) 21:39, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

On the one hand, I would support this, as it's more international as you say. But going through the entire history of humanity and changing each entry would surely be a mammoth task. Unless there's a quick fix? Wjfox2005 (talk) 10:45, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Hello. I would at the very least personally go through all articles until 1900. There is no policy saying all year articles – especially only for a period while the transition happens – has to use the same date format as long as it is consistent within the article itself. However, this discussion is only about the changing it on this specific article about the year 2023. I would personally do it should consensus arise. Are anyone against this change for this specific article? Or just in general for articles about "generic" years? Marginataen (talk) 11:44, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Strong support and apply to every Year article, though I personally doubt it’ll get up. It is frankly bizarre that we persist with the mdy date format on the main Year pages when so few countries use that format. TheScrubby (talk) 01:01, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
I have now changed it. Marginataen (talk) 21:19, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Firefangledfeathers Please restore the DMY date format that you removed without consensus. Marginataen (talk) 14:36, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Done. Sorry I missed this section. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:41, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
I don't particularly object to changing all the year articles to DMY, which is the topic of discussion at Wiki talk:WikiProject Years#Change to the DMY date format, but I do think changing just this one article to DMY isn't worth the loss of consistency. As far as I'm aware, every other year article uses MDY. For now, I oppose this change. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:58, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
I agree that it should be agreed to change all generic year articles to DMY. Thanks for pointing that out. @TheScrubby @Wjfox2005 Marginataen (talk) 18:34, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
A discussion is ongoing at Wiki: Village pump (proposals)#Date format for year article Marginataen (talk) 21:23, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
The format was changed back to MDY without consensus. Currently, there are no standard about consistently in date format across year articles. That is what I am trying to do. The last discussion got messy and I'll probably start a new one about it one the village pump. In the mean time, 2023 should be changed back to DMY Marginataen (talk) 19:45, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
It should be the same for all main year articles. X2023X (talk) 17:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC) Blocked sock. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

• ‎RapMonstaXY, I wanted to make sure you're aware of this discussion. Presuming you support the use of MDY, we're now back into no-consensus territory, and we should preserve MDY until there's consensus for a change. I'll admit it's a bit of a relief to have shifted away from the "every year article except 2023 uses MDY" situation. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:20, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  @Firefangledfeathers: Ah ok. I admit it. I'll just close this discussion immediately. RMXY (talk • contribs) 03:38, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  I've reverted your close, as you were clearly a involved party in the content dispute. 33ABGirl (talk) 03:46, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  Good move. While we're here, 33, hope there are no hard feelings on the re-opening. That sockpuppet vs. sockpuppeteer distinction has tripped me up a few times. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:48, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Per a discussion on WikiProject Years, every image for this article needs a unique consensus for it, so here is the discussion for this image. Should this image be added in the February events section of the article?

• Yes – The spy-balloon event was major and had complete international coverage and international headlines for at least a solid week. The public-domain photograph is perfect for this article. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 07:00, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
• @33ABGirl: — Since you removed this image, which was added under an original WP:SILENCE consensus, your thoughts on this image is requested. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 01:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
  No - Inclusion of the image is WP:UNDUE. As there is currently no collage or images on the page, including a single image would imply that the event is the most important event of the year. The event itself had minimal impact on anything, largely being amplified up by the media.
  I've written a proposal here to decide the images. 33ABGirl (talk) 04:40, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
  Bruh. You are the one who removed them and said each image needs consensus. Now you say that we can’t add an image because it creates UNDUE. You legit just perm removed images from all yearly article with no chance of re-addition per your UNDUE reasoning. That’s dumb and I’m challenging that. I believe it doesn’t create undue as I’ve also started a 2nd image discussion right below this (the coronation) and I could start 10 more image discussions right now. Do you actually have a different reason besides UNDUE, or is UNDUE your sole argument against images in the article which you removed them from? The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 04:45, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

I've struck the sections which you have expressed opposition to. I remain opposed to the addition on the event itself based on the remaining sections. 33ABGirl (talk) 04:55, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
NVM. I have a way around this. I’ll propose every image for this article and will do one RfC to add all 10 (ish) images to the article, no substitutions since we can’t add any due to UNDUE, so it is either all at once or none at all. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 04:48, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
I support this approach, as this is similar to what I proposed here. I suggest making reference to this discussion relating to the selection of collage images, as the purpose is alike. 33ABGirl (talk) 04:55, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

I really feel like it is a disgrace that we just have an empty "Deaths" heading. A major part of a year is how died, and it's just so wierd that we can't make a list about the most notable ones while at the same time linking to the main article for a more comprehensive list. The deaths of people like Tina Turner, Matthew Perry and Henry Kissinger drew massive media attention. Much more than many of the events listed in this article. We should be able to make a list like the one on e.g. 1924.

See here. There was far too many disputes and lengthy discussions about the suitability of each person included and issues with Americentric bias (I note that all your examples are American as well) that the decision to remove the Deaths section entirely was unfortunately made necessary. TheScrubby (talk) 04:27, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
I think we should include the death of Henry Kissinger. DementiaGaming (talk) 20:39, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
I oppose including any deaths for the page, including Henry Kissinger's. As TheScrubby mentioned, this would require weighing whether other notable deaths should also be included, to both avoid Americentrism and because there are many notable deaths this year.
For example, Kissinger wasn't the only notable public official to die this year--Sandra Day O'Connor (first female SCOTUS justice), Constantine II of Greece (last king of Greece), Silvio Berlusconi of Italy (controversial Italian Prime Minister), etc. were also extremely notable deaths. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 21:08, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Since the Deaths sections have been removed from main year articles from 1980 onwards, we only include deaths which have their own articles, such as Death and funeral of Pope Benedict XVI. X2023X (talk) 18:58, 30 December 2023 (UTC) Blocked sock. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Historically the events section is listed according Month Day. This is the only year that is formatted Day Month. This format has been followed for all the years I've seen 1900-2022

Example: 1 January – Croatia adopts the euro Instead of traditionally January 1 – Croatia adopts the euro 2601:1C0:407F:AFA0:FCB3:4F2C:C579:C856 (talk) 16:20, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

The format should be the same for all main year articles. X2023X (talk) 17:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC) Blocked sock. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm unsure about this event, as it is sourced and may have merit, but doesn't have its own article and is largely a regional event related to the Rohingya genocide would better belong on that page. This entry also has grammatical errors and is rather long.

This is the entry:

• 27 December – Hundreds of students from various universities in Aceh, such as: Abulyatama University, Bina Bangsa Getsempena University, and University of Muhammadiyah Aceh, stormed a shelter for Rohingya refugees and forced them out of a convention centre in the city of Banda Aceh, demanding they be deported.

JohnAdams1800 (talk) 00:13, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Exclude. Overly long entry, wrong tense, lacking international coverage or notability for 2023. Wjfox2005 (talk) 11:15, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Exclude per above comments. Deb (talk) 12:56, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Exclude because no-one was killed, it didn't cause a change in government policy & it doesn't have its own article. It's on 2023 in Indonesia. X2023X (talk) 13:44, 28 December 2023 (UTC) Blocked sock. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
  Should it need to have a death victim first before it can be put into the article? I find it is necessary since the accident wounded 100 and was covered by international media, such as Al-Jazeera, South China Post, and CNN. -_- Asphonixm (talk) 15:55, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Fatal attacks happen all the time. This one didn't cause any serious injuries, let alone deaths. It wasn't a murder, riot, shooting, bombing, stabbing or arson attack. It doesn't have its own article & isn't notable enough for one. This article is for the most important events in the world this year. This local disturbance isn't one of the most important events of the year in Indonesia, nor among the 10,000 most important world events of the year. There were clashes, suicide bombings & mass shootings with double-digit death tolls this year which aren't included in this article. X2023X (talk) 17:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC) Blocked sock. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Does it even belong on 2023 in Indonesia? InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 14:03, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Russia attacking multiple Ukrainian cities at once should be on the list in my opinion 2603:8080:7CF0:8820:2420:8FD:BD7B:B220 (talk) 17:18, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

I support adding the 29 December 2023 Russian strikes on Ukraine as an entry for December 2023, as it was one of the largest and deadliest air attacks in the Russian invasion of Ukraine this year. This is a current event, so I would not include casualty numbers (deaths & injuries) for now, but I would include this event. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 19:42, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Include – Notable as largest bombardment of the war so far, and occurred countrywide. Wjfox2005 (talk) 09:26, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
Include. Wjfox2005 shares my opinion and rationale on this. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 15:35, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

@Wjfox2005: What decision occurred to remove all images? If you are thinking of the collage RfC, that was for only collages, not all images. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 19:34, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

I didn't agree to them being removed. But it seems that is what's been decided. See here – https://www.duhoctrungquoc.vn/wiki/index.php?lang=en&q=2023&diff=prev&oldid=1191182771 Wjfox2005 (talk) 19:42, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
That was for that a discussion had to occur. Scroll up to this discussion: Talk:2023#Inclusion of File:U-2 Pilot over Central Continental United States (7644960) (cropped).jpg. I had a silence consensus to add and had pinged 33ABGirl and messaged on their talk page about it with no answer. Since you removed the silence consensus addition, please comment in the discussion about why it was removed (like a reason) or self-revert. I actually knew about that specific edit and followed it and Wiki rules to add that image. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 20:00, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
I've replied in the discussion above. 33ABGirl (talk) 04:40, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Do we include the 2023 North India floods, which killed 422 people?

• Support inclusion — While it is a domestic event, 400+ deaths is huge for a modern-day disaster. There was an ANI filing followed by a large-scale RfC which deemed each event has it’s own DUE weight discussion to determine it, i.e. domestic-only events can be included. So, I support inclusion mainly due to high death toll. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 00:59, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

I also support inclusion for the above reasons, but I'm not sure where exactly such an entry would go. These are multiple floods occurring over months, not a single event, so perhaps it could go on April 1, 2023 when the floods began. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 01:38, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
Support, per Weather Event Writer and JohnAdams. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 15:34, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Due to the various discussions and policy debates, it seems the appropriate course of action is to more or less survey vote for the inclusion of the following images (to not violate WP:UNDUE, single-image discussions cannot occur), hence a single RfC - support all or oppose all.

• File:U-2 Pilot over Central Continental United States (7644960) (cropped).jpg — 2023 Chinese balloon incident (February)
• File:StarshipLaunch (crop 2-3).jpg — SpaceX Starship integrated flight test 1 (April) [Main page image for 4 days]
• File:2023 Coronation Balcony.jpg — Coronation of Charles III and Camilla (May)
• File:Downtown Calgary Alberta Canada Wildfire Smoke - 2023.jpg — 2023 Canadian wildfires (June)
• File:Os-lahaina-town-fire.jpg — 2023 Hawaii wildfires (August) [Main page image for 8 days]
• File:Daniel 2023-09-09 1200Z.jpg — Storm Daniel (September) [Deadliest weather event of the year]
• File:Fires in Israel and the Gaza strip - 7 October 2023 (53245908850).jpg — 2023 Israel–Hamas war (October) [Wikipedia Top 25 report image]
• File:Destructions in Dnipro after Russian attack, 2023-12-29 (01).jpg — Russian invasion of Ukraine (December)

The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 05:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Survey

• Support — Proposer. Noting that I was tempted to replace the spy balloon with Cyclone Freddy, but due to Storm Daniel later in the year, having 2+ weather-related images didn’t seem natural. Storm Daniel gets the weather-image as it was the deadliest weather event of the year. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 05:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

• Proposal — To avoid WP:UNDUE, I recommend we discuss all possible picture selections first, then insert the images together. Doing so would avoid limiting us to a specific set of photographs to be accepted or rejected, as presented above. I also suggest making reference to this discussion relating to the selection of collage images, as the purpose is alike. 33ABGirl (talk) 06:09, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

How is this not notable? It was a milestone in the ongoing pandemic, and a big story at the time, reported by every major media outlet. China was the initial epicentre of the outbreak, its control measures were extremely harsh and restrictive, a country of 1.4 billion people in semi-permanent lockdown, with implications for international travel and trade. The country saw massive protests (for the first time in decades) over this policy. The January travel restrictions weren't isolated but were a global response to China, and therefore (a) reflected the world's adaptation to the evolving nature of the pandemic, and (b) highlighted the interconnectedness of global health and the economy. China's ending of lockdown also influenced the WHO ending its declaration of a global health emergency a few months later. This entry is also presented in an entirely neutral, unbiased, and factual manner. It should be restored:

• 3 January – Starting from this date, many countries impose travel restrictions on travel from China due to the relaxation of the country's zero-COVID policy.

Wjfox2005 (talk) 09:50, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

I'd include it. I think that given the notoriety it's gained in media as well as the strong effects it has has on people, it merits an entry. I would advise everyone who votes "domestic" to read WP:DUE. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 14:04, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
I was the one who removed the content. My reasons for removal are not related to the event being "domestic" at all. As I stated in the edit summary, I believe that the event, in retrospect, is no longer notable enough for inclusion. That is to say, while the event may have been deemed significant enough to be included on the page at the time it occurred, with the advantage of hindsight, we can see that the restrictions imposed were of short duration and had no enduring impact. For example the EU restrictions lasted only around a month
I also notice that there are limitations on this page on inclusion of covid-19 events, which has its own stand-alone timeline, with not all the events included here. I think we must take that into account here, with inclusion of this event over other similarly or more impactful events being WP:UNDUE. I think the that the entry in December 2022 marking the actual relation of the restrictions is sufficient coverage on the event for these pages. 33ABGirl (talk) 16:49, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
I would strongly disagree with the idea of zero-COVID having no enduring notability. See the AP on how China's approach on exiting zero-COVID costed lives, the mass-imprisonment beliefs regarded by the Guardian, the loss of faith in the Chinese government as explained by Al Jazeera, and many other examples which I do not have time to mention here. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 14:00, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
I certainly agree with you that zero-COVID has enduring notability. However, I am contending that due coverage has been fulfilled in the following content:
2022
• 7 December
  • After substantial protests against China's Zero-COVID policies, the Chinese government eases on its COVID restrictions.
Taking the above account into account, I think it is not necessary to include the lifting of the restrictions, as it is only a minor part of the overall event, for the reasons I have outlined in my previous reply. 33ABGirl (talk) 17:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
I say we should include it. DementiaGaming (talk) 18:39, 14 January 2024 (UTC)