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There are many ways to present information, but since there are 24 teams this will become too large. There are several options. Each has its pros and cons:
Current one:
Event | Date | Location | Vacancies | Qualified |
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Host nation | – | – | 1 | Spain |
2012 Olympics | 29 July–12 August 2012 | London | 1 | United States |
2013 FIBA Africa Championship | 20–31 August 2013 | Ivory Coast | 3 | Angola Egypt Senegal |
2013 FIBA Americas Championship | 30 August–11 September 2013 | Venezuela | 4 | 1 2 3 4 |
2013 FIBA Asia Championship | 1–11 August 2013 | Philippines | 3 | Iran Philippines South Korea |
FIBA EuroBasket 2013 | 4–22 September 2013 | Slovenia | 6 | 1 2 3 4 5 6 |
2013 FIBA Oceania Championship | 14–18 August 2013 | New Zealand Australia | 2 | Australia New Zealand |
Wild cards | 4 | 1 2 3 4 | ||
TOTAL | 24 |
The one found at 2014 FIBA Basketball World Cup qualification#Qualified teams
Team | Qualified as | Qualification secured | Last appearance | Total appearances |
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Spain | Host | May 23, 2009 | 2010 | 11 |
United States | Gold medalist at the 2012 Olympic men's basketball tournament | August 12, 2012 | 2010 | 17 |
Iran | First place at the 2013 FIBA Asia Championship | August 10, 2013 | 2010 | 2 |
Philippines | Second place at the 2013 FIBA Asia Championship | August 10, 2013 | 1978 | 5 |
South Korea | Third place at the 2013 FIBA Asia Championship | August 11, 2013 | 1998 | 7 |
Australia | First place at the 2013 FIBA Oceania Championship | August 18, 2013 | 2010 | 11 |
New Zealand | Second place at the 2013 FIBA Oceania Championship | August 18, 2013 | 2010 | 5 |
Egypt | Second place at the 2013 FIBA Africa Championship | August 30, 2013 | 1994 | 6 |
Angola | First place at the 2013 FIBA Africa Championship | August 30, 2013 | 2010 | 7 |
Senegal | Third place at the 2013 FIBA Africa Championship | August 31, 2013 | 2006 | 4 |
First place at the 2013 FIBA Americas Championship | September 10, 2013 | |||
Second place at the 2013 FIBA Americas Championship | September 10, 2013 | |||
Third place at the 2013 FIBA Americas Championship | September 10, 2013 | |||
Fourth place at the 2013 FIBA Americas Championship | September 10, 2013 | |||
First place at the FIBA EuroBasket 2013 | September 18, 2013 | |||
Second place at the FIBA EuroBasket 2013 | September 18, 2013 | |||
Third place at the FIBA EuroBasket 2013 | September 19, 2013 | |||
Fourth place at the FIBA EuroBasket 2013 | September 19, 2013 | |||
Fifth place at the FIBA EuroBasket 2013 | September 19, 2013 | |||
Sixth place at the FIBA EuroBasket 2013 | September 20, 2013 | |||
Wild card selection | December 2013 | |||
Wild card selection | December 2013 | |||
Wild card selection | December 2013 | |||
Wild card selection | December 2013 |
The one found at 2010 FIBA World Championship#List of qualified teams
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There reads: To complete the 24-team tournament, FIBA will announce the four wild cards after a meeting in Barcelona on February 2014; they may announce an initial list of qualified wild cards after a Buenos Aires meeting on November 2013.
The table in this article has the date of February 2014, while the table 2014 FIBA Basketball World Cup qualification has the date of November 2013. Though, strangely, there are already four teams listed. What does that mean? Is it a guess, or have they been selected already? 82.141.117.117 (talk) 01:45, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Can anyone look for a reference on the hosts of the draw were? –HTD 16:00, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
"Venues" section has the city of the arena as Bilbao. However, the arena's article and the "Group C" section, has the city as Barakaldo. It is near Bilbao and part of its metropolitan area, but not the same city. 82.141.94.123 (talk) 19:30, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
I suggest not putting the tiebreaker columns in place until the final standings are determined. Ties aren't really being broken until the standings are final anyway. MrArticleOne (talk) 20:41, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Seems to me people are using GOAL DIFFERENCE rules for tie-break. These are part of the 2014 rules that do not come into effect until Oct 1, 2014. Goal Difference is currently irrelevant for FIBA rules (see 2012 rules). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.134.78.217 (talk) 01:28, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Why has Ukraine been listed as eliminated and New Zealand as qualifying for the next round? Ukraine has a better GA than New Zealand and thus will advance. Only Finland have been eliminated. New Zealand, Turkey, and the Dominican Republic are all undetermined. I have never commented on wikipedia before so I don't know how to change it. Perhaps this is why it is a bad idea to ignore GA (and include GD) in the tables until the end of the round - it makes people think GD is correct.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremy1986 (talk • contribs) 19:10, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Because no matter who wins DR vs. Turkey, the loser will be in a 3-way tie with UK and New Zealand. In both cases of the 3-way tie, the head to head is 1-1 and Ukraine will lose the GA tiebreaker. Remember the GA tiebreaker only counts points between the tied teams.
DR loses: NZ/Ukraine : 73-61 NZ/DR : 63-76 Ukraine/DR : 72-62 NZ PF=136, PA=137 Ukraine PF=133, PA=135 Dominican RPF=138, PA=135
Turkey loses: NZ/Ukraine : 73-61 NZ/Turkey : 73-76 Ukraine/Turkey: 64-58 NZPF=146, PA=137 Ukraine PF=125, PA=131 TurkeyPF=134, PA=137 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.127.104.11 (talk) 19:14, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
I found it misleading that "Final round" refers not to the single final game, but to all the rounds for the final 16 teams i.e. the knockout stage. http://www.fiba.com/basketballworldcup/2014/competition-format calls it "Final phase". I'm proposing to use "final phase" or "knockout round" or "knockout stage" instead. Note the name of the 2010 article, 2010 FIBA World Championship knockout stage.—Bagumba (talk) 04:15, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
From where do the data of attendance come please ? (in these articles : group A, group B, ...)
I haven't found them on the fiba website...
Thanks :)
InfraRouge77 (talk) 13:50, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be something in this article about FIBA's investigation into the Australia-Angola group stage game? http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/sep/09/australias-boomers-under-investigation-for-tanking Tad Lincoln (talk) 02:44, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
About the New FIBA World Ranking after the 2014 FIBA World Cup, it's quite simple to obtain it. It takes just some additions and subtractions. Here a simple tutorial. Just go to the official page of the FIBA World Ranking (click here), select the table, copy and paste it to your spreadsheet application of choice (Excel, for example). Do the cosmetic things (cells width, height, etc). In the FIBA World Ranking page there is a section called "how it works" explaining the scoring system, weights for competitions and the cycle to witch it applies. By reading that we understand that a cycle includes the last two World Cups/World Championships, and that the inclusion of points awarded in a new competition drops the points of the older one. In this case the 2014 edition points are included and the 2006 edition droped. Then, using the scoring system and weights, just include in the next column of your streadsheet with the old rankings you just copied and pasted the points awarded in the 2006 edition. The final standings of 2006 edition can be seen in the official FIBA Archive (click here) or right here in the wikipedia article: 2006 FIBA World Championship#Final rankings. After that just include in the next column the points awarded in 2014 edition. Then in the next column use a simple formula that takes the points of the old ranking, subtracts the points of 2006 edition and adds the points of the 2014 edition. Voilà! We have the new ranking points after the 2014 edition for every national team. Since the final was not played yet, I "awarded" 200 points to both USA and Serbia, since that ammount is granted. The second placed receives 200 points. The first receives 250 points. So after the final, just adding 50 points to the winner completes the new ranking. Edit: Just added those 250 points to the USA instead of 200 since they've won the final game. Doing all this you will obtain something like this:
Old Rank | Country | IOC Code | Old Points | 2006 Pionts | 2014 Points | New Points |
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1. | USA | USA | 940.0 | 150 | 250 | 1040.0 |
2. | Spain | ESP | 885.0 | 250 | 70 | 705.0 |
3. | Argentina | ARG | 490.0 | 75 | 40 | 455.0 |
4. | Lithuania | LTU | 432.0 | 60 | 75 | 447.0 |
5. | Greece | GRE | 376.0 | 200 | 50 | 226.0 |
6. | Russia | RUS | 353.0 | 353.0 | ||
7. | Turkey | TUR | 294.0 | 65 | 55 | 284.0 |
8. | France | FRA | 280.0 | 70 | 150 | 360.0 |
9. | Australia | AUS | 234.0 | 50 | 35 | 219.0 |
10. | Brazil | BRA | 222.0 | 10 | 65 | 277.0 |
11. | Serbia | SRB | 194.0 | 50 | 200 | 344.0 |
12. | China | CHN | 188.9 | 50 | 138.9 | |
13. | Slovenia | SLO | 158.0 | 50 | 60 | 168.0 |
14. | Germany | GER | 144.0 | 55 | 89.0 | |
15. | Angola | ANG | 143.0 | 50 | 10 | 103.0 |
16. | Croatia | CRO | 137.0 | 45 | 182.0 | |
17. | Puerto Rico | PUR | 115.0 | 10 | 5 | 110.0 |
18. | Nigeria | NGR | 109.0 | 50 | 59.0 | |
19. | New Zealand | NZL | 102.0 | 50 | 20 | 72.0 |
20. | Islamic Republic of Iran | IRI | 94.2 | 5 | 99.2 | |
21. | Italy | ITA | 73.0 | 50 | 23.0 | |
22. | Great Britain | GBR | 68.0 | 68.0 | ||
23. | Tunisia | TUN | 65.6 | 65.6 | ||
24. | Mexico | MEX | 59.2 | 25 | 84.2 | |
25. | Canada | CAN | 49.0 | 49.0 | ||
26. | Dominican Republic | DOM | 47.2 | 30 | 77.2 | |
27. | Uruguay | URU | 40.0 | 40.0 | ||
28. | Venezuela | VEN | 36.2 | 5 | 31.2 | |
29. | Lebanon | LIB | 35.4 | 10 | 25.4 | |
30. | Jordan | JOR | 33.8 | 33.8 | ||
31. | Korea | KOR | 30.6 | 5 | 35.6 | |
31. | Panama | PAN | 30.6 | 5 | 25.6 | |
33. | MKD | MKD | 26.0 | 26.0 | ||
34. | Philippines | PHI | 22.8 | 5 | 27.8 | |
35. | Japan | JPN | 22.6 | 10 | 12.6 | |
36. | Cote d'Ivoire | CIV | 21.2 | 21.2 | ||
37. | Israel | ISR | 21.0 | 21.0 | ||
37. | Latvia | LAT | 21.0 | 21.0 | ||
39. | Finland | FIN | 20.0 | 5 | 25.0 | |
40. | Poland | POL | 19.0 | 19.0 | ||
41. | Senegal | SEN | 18.2 | 5 | 15 | 28.2 |
42. | Qatar | QAT | 17.3 | 5 | 12.3 | |
43. | Cameroon | CMR | 16.2 | 16.2 | ||
44. | Chinese Taipei | TPE | 15.9 | 15.9 | ||
45. | Ukraine | UKR | 15.0 | 5 | 20.0 | |
46. | Egypt | EGY | 14.4 | 5 | 19.4 | |
46. | Paraguay | PAR | 14.4 | 14.4 | ||
48. | Bulgaria | BUL | 12.0 | 12.0 | ||
48. | Czech Republic | CZE | 12.0 | 12.0 | ||
50. | Belgium | BEL | 11.0 | 11.0 | ||
50. | Portugal | POR | 11.0 | 11.0 | ||
52. | Kazakhstan | KAZ | 10.8 | 10.8 | ||
53. | Georgia | GEO | 10.0 | 10.0 | ||
54. | Cape Verde | CPV | 9.8 | 9.8 | ||
55. | Central African Republic | CAF | 8.8 | 8.8 | ||
55. | Jamaica | JAM | 8.8 | 8.8 | ||
57. | Bosnia and Herzegovina | BIH | 8.0 | 8.0 | ||
57. | Cuba | CUB | 8.0 | 8.0 | ||
59. | Morocco | MAR | 7.6 | 7.6 | ||
60. | Virgin Islands | ISV | 7.2 | 7.2 | ||
61. | India | IND | 6.9 | 6.9 | ||
62. | Mali | MLI | 6.6 | 6.6 | ||
62. | Rwanda | RWA | 6.6 | 6.6 | ||
64. | Sweden | SWE | 6.0 | 6.0 | ||
65. | United Arab Emirates | UAE | 5.7 | 5.7 | ||
66. | Mozambique | MOZ | 5.4 | 5.4 | ||
66. | Syria | SYR | 5.4 | 5.4 | ||
68. | Indonesia | INA | 5.1 | 5.1 | ||
69. | Hong Kong | HKG | 4.5 | 4.5 | ||
70. | Kuwait | KUW | 3.9 | 3.9 | ||
71. | Malaysia | MAS | 3.6 | 3.6 | ||
71. | Uzbekistan | UZB | 3.6 | 3.6 | ||
73. | Bahrain | BRN | 3.3 | 3.3 | ||
74. | Montenegro | MNE | 3.0 | 3.0 | ||
74. | South Africa | RSA | 3.0 | 3.0 | ||
76. | Kingdom of Saudi Arabia | KSA | 1.8 | 1.8 | ||
77. | Libya | LBA | 1.6 | 1.6 | ||
77. | Republic of Congo | CGO | 1.6 | 1.6 | ||
79. | Thailand | THA | 1.5 | 1.5 | ||
80. | Algeria | ALG | 1.4 | 1.4 | ||
81. | Madagascar | MAD | 1.2 | 1.2 | ||
82. | Sri Lanka | SRI | 0.9 | 0.9 | ||
83. | Chad | CHA | 0.8 | 0.8 | ||
83. | Dem.Rep. of Congo | COD | 0.8 | 0.8 | ||
85. | Burkina Faso | BUR | 0.6 | 0.6 | ||
85. | Liberia | LBR | 0.6 | 0.6 | ||
85. | Togo | TOG | 0.6 | 0.6 |
After that you just need to take the columns with the country names and the new ranking points and copy then in another spreadsheet. Order then by the ranking points, include a column for the new rakings and fix the cases of draws in number of points. The new World Ranking is complete. You will obtain something like this:
New Rank | Country | New Points |
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1 | USA | 1040.0 |
2 | Spain | 705.0 |
3 | Argentina | 455.0 |
4 | Lithuania | 447.0 |
5 | France | 360.0 |
6 | Russia | 353.0 |
7 | Serbia | 344.0 |
8 | Turkey | 284.0 |
9 | Brazil | 277.0 |
10 | Greece | 226.0 |
11 | Australia | 219.0 |
12 | Croatia | 182.0 |
13 | Slovenia | 168.0 |
14 | China | 138.9 |
15 | Puerto Rico | 110.0 |
16 | Angola | 103.0 |
17 | Islamic Republic of Iran | 99.2 |
18 | Germany | 89.0 |
19 | Mexico | 84.2 |
20 | Dominican Republic | 77.2 |
21 | New Zealand | 72.0 |
22 | Great Britain | 68.0 |
23 | Tunisia | 65.6 |
24 | Nigeria | 59.0 |
25 | Canada | 49.0 |
26 | Uruguay | 40.0 |
27 | Korea | 35.6 |
28 | Jordan | 33.8 |
29 | Venezuela | 31.2 |
30 | Senegal | 28.2 |
31 | Philippines | 27.8 |
32 | MKD | 26.0 |
33 | Panama | 25.6 |
34 | Lebanon | 25.4 |
35 | Finland | 25.0 |
36 | Italy | 23.0 |
37 | Cote d'Ivoire | 21.2 |
38 | Israel | 21.0 |
38 | Latvia | 21.0 |
40 | Ukraine | 20.0 |
41 | Egypt | 19.4 |
42 | Poland | 19.0 |
43 | Cameroon | 16.2 |
44 | Chinese Taipei | 15.9 |
45 | Paraguay | 14.4 |
46 | Japan | 12.6 |
47 | Qatar | 12.3 |
48 | Bulgaria | 12.0 |
48 | Czech Republic | 12.0 |
50 | Belgium | 11.0 |
50 | Portugal | 11.0 |
52 | Kazakhstan | 10.8 |
53 | Georgia | 10.0 |
54 | Cape Verde | 9.8 |
55 | Central African Republic | 8.8 |
55 | Jamaica | 8.8 |
57 | Bosnia and Herzegovina | 8.0 |
57 | Cuba | 8.0 |
59 | Morocco | 7.6 |
60 | Virgin Islands | 7.2 |
61 | India | 6.9 |
62 | Mali | 6.6 |
62 | Rwanda | 6.6 |
64 | Sweden | 6.0 |
65 | United Arab Emirates | 5.7 |
66 | Mozambique | 5.4 |
66 | Syria | 5.4 |
68 | Indonesia | 5.1 |
69 | Hong Kong | 4.5 |
70 | Kuwait | 3.9 |
71 | Malaysia | 3.6 |
71 | Uzbekistan | 3.6 |
73 | Bahrain | 3.3 |
74 | Montenegro | 3.0 |
74 | South Africa | 3.0 |
76 | Kingdom of Saudi Arabia | 1.8 |
77 | Libya | 1.6 |
77 | Republic of Congo | 1.6 |
79 | Thailand | 1.5 |
80 | Algeria | 1.4 |
81 | Madagascar | 1.2 |
82 | Sri Lanka | 0.9 |
83 | Chad | 0.8 |
83 | Dem.Rep. of Congo | 0.8 |
85 | Burkina Faso | 0.6 |
85 | Liberia | 0.6 |
85 | Togo | 0.6 |
As we can see, all but 5th, 6th and 7th are determined. If Serbia loses against USA then France will be ranked 5th, Russia 6th and Serbia 7th. If Serbia wins they will have 50 points added, reaching 394 points. In this case Serbia will be ranked 5th, France 6th and Russia 7th. Edit: Serbia lost, so the final ranking for those three teams are France in 5th, Russia in 6th and Serbia in 7th. It takes less than ten minutes. So I'll restore the new rankings and the changes.177.94.146.106 (talk) 12:45, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
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