articles For Deletion/Chalk To Win

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Tone 11:20, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chalk to win

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Borders on patent nonsense. The unsourced article, such as it is, is about claims allegedly made in "studies" (uncited), by an allegedly existing but non-notable academic who is simultaneously described as "Dr." Lee and as someone without an actual doctorate, and as "renowned" despite being really just a random (alleged) grad student who calls himself "Dr." The article sagely informs us that applying chalk to the cue stick tip is something pool, billiards and snooker players have been doing for ages, but that doing it has been newly discovered to be useful (as if we were doing this before just to entertain ourselves?), yet (get this) that this results in "unwarranted" confidence (right; because simply chalking the cue doesn't make you a good shot, after all). That is, the effect allegedly measured by the alleged studies is bogus. Uh, okay. The "article" smacks of WP:COI, though the seeming single-purpose account who created the article may not be "Dr. Lee" but someone associated with him. PS: It's also a neologism. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 01:58, 13 January 2010 (UTC) PS: This does not appear to be in any way related to the sports betting phrase "chalked to win", sometimes rendered "chalk' to win". — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 06:33, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy delete as hoax / nonsense. To quote the article, "The renowned Dr M. Lee (unconfirmed doctorate) is now undertaking further studies in the art of 'smacking it' . . . . Chalk to win is a method of playing pool and other cue sports, taking the pressure of each shot off of the player and placing it solely on the chalking of the cue." Uh, nice try.  Glenfarclas  (talk) 09:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete per above. Blodance (talk) 14:21, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete editors only contributions were this article plus adding one reference to it in the article Pool (cue sports) Racepacket (talk) 16:28, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Number and type of edits by the editor is not one of the speedy deletion criteria. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 01:47, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. There is no entry for this term/concept in Shamos' Illustrated Encyclopedia of Billiards, nor in Stein & Rubino's Billiard Encyclopedia, nor in Byrne's New Standard Book of Pool and Billiards. A search of the cue chalk board at Billiardsdigest.com (a great resource for those in the know and would capture this if it was a well used neologism) shows not a single reference to the expression and a targeted Google web search (the natural habitat of neologisms) returns zero results.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:23, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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