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NPPS finished

I finished the first part of NPPS. Proof: https://www.duhoctrungquoc.vn/wiki/index.php?lang=en&q=User%3ACassiopeia%252FNPPS%252FOpalYosutebito&diff=1219222565&oldid=1210307379

(I was busy with college, so that's why it took a lot longer than expected...) - OpalYosutebito (talk) 13:04, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

    OpalYosutebito Thank you for informing me and give me a few days to review it. It is importance to spend time on your college/uni work as having a degree will improve your quality of your life so much as I know first hand how much I have leart in college nor only the academic part of the program but learn how to think and learn and most of all cement so many good friendships. Pls do not let this program obstruct you in any way. Take your time to work on the NPPS program for I am always here. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 02:59, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
      You're welcome, and thanks for understanding - OpalYosutebito (talk) 10:32, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Please ease up on the warnings

I noticed that User talk:Jtx186 is littered with warnings from you after checking against one of his their uncited contributions. Please ease up on these warnings for this type of edits[1][2] per WP:BITE and WP:HOUND. The account is editing exclusively from mobile platforms, and the interface does not make citing things easy. The person may never learn how. I realise that it may be annoying that this person never provides citations for any edits given the stringent BLP policies, but this gnomish edit is mundane and non-disruptive and should not be punished given WP:BOLD. Morbidthoughts (talk) 19:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

    Morbidthoughts Good day. Thank you for the message above, I understand you wrote the message in good will and good intention. Since you have been edited Wikipedia since 2007 with average of 500 edits per year in Wikipedia main space and I would like to thank you for being a long time Wikipedia contributor. I am one of the counter vandalism trainers - see HERE-1 and have about (estimated) 50K counter vandalism edits in Wikipedia so I am familiar with counter vandalism work.

Adding/change content to the article is not gnomish work. Gnomish works in Wikipedia are improving punctuation, fixing typos, correcting poor grammar, creating redirects, adding categories, repairing broken links, adding ISBNs of books, adding short description tag in the article, organizing word pairs into tables, repairing links to disambiguation pages, adding wiki links, adding useful categories, adding redirects, finding sources for "citation needed" tags, providing helpful advice to new editors, posting welcome messages, providing help to other editors, at various forums and various pages around Wikipedia, such WP:Help Desk, etc., helping to maintain "project pages", and many other tasks.

    If you look at the editor talk page and history log, you would notice that the editor started editing Wikipedia since August 30 2018. They are not new editor and have been warned many times since October 2022. The editor was blocked 3 times (June 2023, September 2023 and April 2024) for vandalism, disruptive editing and unsourced so BITE, HOUND and BOLD do not apply there as the editor is a repeat Wikipedia guidelines violator. The most important guidelines in Wikipedia if I have to choose only one is verifibility as this is the core policy of Wikipedia and the editor who add/change the content is the one who need to provide the source for verification. So if an editor repeatedly not provide source and have been warned so many times and continuing to do so, the editor will be blocked and indeed they just got indef block for unsourced - see HERE-2.
    Lastly, I thank you for adding the source on half of the said editor on Ryan Garcia page and once again thank you for time, effort you spent on contributing to Wikipedia for last 17 years. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 06:37, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
      I spend a lot of time on the BLP noticeboards and just don't consider these edits disruptive or vandalism. The indef block was harsh if they were just adding uncited but verifiable information. This is the type of enforcement that drives casual but useful contributors away. Even though the user created their account in 2018, I still consider them a casual contributor who is trying to improve the project so WP:BOLD matters. They are making the same type of edits that an ip address would make in updating sports articles with the latest record or mundane news. Their mistake was creating an account to accumulate these warnings. Morbidthoughts (talk) 07:50, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
      Pinging @Callanecc: since they made the block off your AIV request[3]. Morbidthoughts (talk) 08:17, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
        Morbidthoughts If they are new or just have one of two unsourced content added that is a different things, but the editor habitually and repeatedly adding unsourced content, vandalized article and made disruptive edits after many warnings and guidelines provided. Repeatedly adding unsourced content after many warnings will result a block for IP editors or register users, so are continuing/repeating edit disruptively, vandalized articles, personal attack other editors and etc. All warnings are accumulated and all edits are recorded for they can always be viewed in the history log regardless if they are IP or registered users. I know you dont share Wikipedia way of conducts of the admins or the counter vandalism editors, but this is Wikipedia and to edit in Wikipedia we have to adhere to the guidelines. If there is still some doubt in you of this issues, please take a moment to ponder why the user have been blocked 3 times by 3 different admins in three different occasions. Lastly, it is not about mundane content added to the articles but it is about repeatedly violating the core policy of Wiki English. Once again, I thank you for your long time contribution to Wiki English. Stay safe are and have a wonderful weekend. Cassiopeia talk 08:34, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
          They are not vandalism edits within the meaning of WP:VANDALISM, as in deliberate edits meant to obstruct Wiki English. It may be frustrating and annoying to see these content additions uncited, but they fall under WP:BOLD. Wikipedia is not meant to be a bureaucracy. Morbidthoughts (talk) 08:43, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
            Morbidthoughts, As mentioned, a user being blocked is not only violating VAL guidelines but also by other means especially for a repeated violator for so many times in a year where warnings and guidelines are placed in their talk page (sorry I am repeating myself here). A violator is a behavior issue as violator is "a person who breaks or fails to comply with a rule and/or a person who treats something with irreverence or disrespect. Even for a new editor continuing adding unsourced contain after many warnings, they will be blocked temporary (31hrs/3 days) let a lone a repeated violator. See Wiki: About - "Anyone can edit Wikipedia's text, references, and images. What is written is more important than who writes it. The content must conform with Wikipedia's policies, including being verifiable by published sources." In short verifiability is the essence of Wikipedia work. Cassiopeia talk 09:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
              The problem with your argument is that the information being added is easily verifiable even if they didn't provide a citation. You seem to be an experienced editor with the subjects of MMA and boxing to recognise what is verifiable or not without a citation. WP:FULLCITE acknowledges this interpretation with "When tagging or removing material for lacking an inline citation, please state your concern that it may not be possible to find a published reliable source, and the material therefore may not be verifiable. If you think the material is verifiable, you are encouraged to provide an inline citation yourself before considering whether to remove or tag it." You did not remove or challenge the information on Islam Makachev.[4] Instead you gave this person a warning.[5] Then when I told you to ease up after my experience with this editor. You gave a final warning for the Islam Makachev article when they didn't edit that article further,[6] gave a final warning for a similar edit for Ryan Garcia,[7] and filed an AIV.[8] That is WP:POINTy. Morbidthoughts (talk) 23:35, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
                I dont always go to my user page when I start editing. I have about 2K watchlist and many notifications. You can check my daily working pattern on my contribution log of my editing patterns. (not sure what you meant by tagging - so I explain here) Tagging is not the same as violation of guidelines. Tagging the article is a considered gnomish work. We tag the "article" not the editor when we find some issues needs to be solved such as copyedit, missing categories, lack of wikilinls, article needs to have more section, and etc. The tag(s) appear at the top of the article. Here is a different topic". As per WP:BURDEN - All content must be verifiable and the burden lies on the editor who added/change the content to provide source (inline citation) for verifiability. As mentioned, if a editor continuing violate the Wikipedia guidelines (vandalism/unsourced/disruptive/ personal attack and etc.), after warnings "many times" that informing they will be blocked and if they are continuing to do so after that then he will be reported especially the editor has been informed of such since one year and had been blocked twice prior to another recent block -that is the point which I hope you can understand which I have been trying to explained to you a few times it is long standing behavior issues. Have a good weekend and best. Cassiopeia talk 06:32, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Submitted Assignment (NPPS)

Hello @Cassiopeia, I have submitted and notified you on my assignment talk page but still no response. Kindly go through and assess my work.

Thank you, Best resgards Uncle Bash007 (talk) 07:52, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Razvanparaschiv idisi (01:40, 22 April 2024)

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Thanks

Starting to get familiar with Wikipedia and it’s guidelines and wanted to thank you for it. I appreciate you always being here to help. Recently ActionHeroesAreReal started adding back UNSOURCED information to the article BHari and I intervened. I reverted their changes because the user failed to cite a reliable source regarding the information they are putting out. You can check my response to the situation on their talk page, I hope they read Wiki: But it's true!. Articlread (talk) 01:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

    Articlread Good day. I saw and thank you. I have added a warning message on the talk page with links provided for citation. Learning to edit Wikipedia is sharp learning curve. I remember when I started, I have no idea how to edit or where to find info/guidlines until an experienced MMA editor sent me a welcome message on my talk page. After that, I started to read the guidelines few hours per day for months. You have over 1.5k main space edits and I believe you know some of the basic guidelines. If you want you can take WP:TWA 30 mins short program to understand the basic edit/guidelines. I find it very helpful as I took it years ago. The program system might not work well with mobile but it work well with laptop. If you find you have problem with laptop then I can send you the 13/14 guidelines to you. Thank you very much for your contribution and you are welcome to pop back here if you have any questions or needed any assistance for I am here to help. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 10:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
      Cassiopeia you are welcome. There is an issue right now on this article (Vidyut Jammwal), the same user ActionHeroesAreReal is currently edit warring and is being disrespectful. Can you explain to me how to report this Disruptive user. Thanks. Articlread (talk) 13:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
        How about you stop edit warring and removing sourced content? Do you also know that a martial artist is not necessarily a fighter, and therefore doesn’t need a “record”? You clearly know nothing about martial arts or fighting. ActionHeroesAreReal (talk) 14:09, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
        I would also like to add that this user (OkayEiko) might be a sockpuppet. Cassiopeia your help will be greatly appreciated. Articlread (talk) 14:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
          You cannot add a weak source promoting his film and say he is a martial artist. if you want to add something related to martial arts do it in the body of the article with a reliable source which states he practices said martial art per source ActionHeroesAreReal. Disrespectfulness and edit warring can get you banned on Wiki English. you are new to this site and do not be emotional. learn from the ones with experience and always site a reliable source. Articlread (talk) 14:41, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
            How about you stop edit warring and removing sourced content? Do you also know that a martial artist is not necessarily a fighter, and therefore doesn’t need a “record”? You clearly know nothing about martial arts or fighting. So stupid. ActionHeroesAreReal (talk) 17:22, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
              newindianexpress isn't an reliable source at all. Untamed1910 (talk) 18:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
                ActionHeroesAreReal you are overly emotional and you clearly are letting your feelings get in the way. Being disrespectful will get you blocked on Wiki English. This is a site which works by adding reliable sources to the information you are putting out. Reliable sources and not just any source as you did on this article (Vidyut Jammwal). Not any martial art practitioner is a martial artist, martial artist is mainly put for real fighters who fought in competitions or have a reputable record to show for it and not just an actor who plays roles of a fighter in a film. Don't be emotional and attack other users on Wikipedia when you do not have a clue about your wrong doings. The totally useless revert you made on Jimmy Ellis (boxer) and the lack of civility you are showing is a proof that your feelings got hurt. Don’t be ego driven and immature, it is last thing a Wikipedia editor should be. Articlread (talk) 20:47, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

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