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has updated its guidelines for acceptable content to ban videos that could incite violence, a move that Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) said is a direct response to his request last spring that videos sponsored by terrorist organizations like al-Qaeda be removed from the site.
YouTube had previously turned down the request from Lieberman, chairman of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, that it remove video content produced by terrorist organizations that showed assassinations, the deaths of U.S. soldiers and civilians, weapons training and other material. Lieberman said such content is intended to "encourage violence against the West."
At the time, YouTube said that most of the videos Lieberman had highlighted did not violate its community standards.
The updated YouTube Community Guidelines, posted last week, note that things "like predatory behavior, stalking, threats, harassment, intimidation, invading privacy, revealing other people's personal information and inciting others to commit violent acts or to violate the terms of use are taken very seriously."
Those caught violating the rules, the updated guidelines go on to note, may be permanently banned from YouTube. The video-sharing site also added tips and examples to explain its policies on hate speech, violence and other content.
While YouTube didn't explicitly mention terrorist videos or the pressure from Lieberman, the senator claimed that the move was taken in direct response to his earlier complaints.
"YouTube was being used by Islamist terrorist organizations to recruit and train followers via the Internet and to incite terrorist attacks around the world, including right here in the United States, and Google should be commended for recognizing that," Lieberman said in a statement. "I expect these stronger community guidelines to decrease the number of videos on YouTube produced by al-Qaeda and affiliated Islamist terrorist organizations."
Lieberman went on to call on YouTube parent Google Inc. to remove all the videos created by terrorist organizations, not just those that violate the community guidelines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KManRush (talk • contribs) 21:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
It'S nice that Israel had own local YT version but is there any news about this issue? Why it's English and not Hebrew like Indian version? OnurTcontribs 11:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
The YouTube Terms of Service includes a statement I'm trying to understand:
"You agree to defend, indemnify and hold harmless YouTube, its parent corporation, officers, directors, employees and agents, from and against any and all claims, damages, obligations, losses, liabilities, costs or debt, and expenses (including but not limited to attorney's fees) arising from: (i) your use of and access to the YouTube Website; ...[ii-iv:various liabilities]... This defense and indemnification obligation will survive these Terms of Service and your use of the YouTube Website."
The way this sounds to me, they are getting people to sign up to something that sounds like if and when they are ready for bankruptcy, they can go after their former subscribers and charge them for all of their normal costs of operation including just normal watching or posting videos. But surely people wouldn't be taking that... right? Wnt (talk) 22:21, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
"Few statistics are publicly available regarding the number of videos on YouTube." Does anyone know why it's so hard to find statistics about youtube? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.202.38.225 (talk) 20:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
At the moment, the article says :
As of April 9, 2008, a YouTube search returns about 83.4 million videos and 3.75 million user channels.
However, a current search says "video results 1 - 20 of millions" and does not give a specific figure. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Referring to the 'Social impact' section:
Seeing as JerryC (Taiwanese family name: Chang. First name unknown.) is the one who made the video of the cover of Pachelbel's Canon in D known as Canon Rock, why is it that Jeong-Hyun Lim (or Funtwo as he is known on Youtube) is the one featured? Although it is true that his cover (of JerryC's song) became massively popular at the same time and actually caused a lot of confusion amongst fans of the video(and new people to the song) over who made the song, it is a fact that JerryC was the one who made the song and Funtwo made a cover of it using the backing track created and released to the public by JerryC. It is also worth mentioning that Funtwo's cover is almost note-for-note the same.
Now I'm not sure which video (or which version of the song, JerryC's or Funtwo's cover of it) actually had the most views and my guess is that it would be very difficult to tell since so many people took the videos and re-uploaded them onto their own Youtube pages with different titles and descriptions. But if it is generally believed that Funtwo's got the most views then I think that at least JerryC should get a mention for being the one who started and created the backing track used by Funtwo. And, of course, if it was actually JerryC's that got the most then I think it should be him who is featured.
This is for a statistic in the 4th paragraph of the article-- The following direct quote from YouTube CEO Chad Hurley should be cited as a source--certainly more direct than any other source--for the YouTube statistic, as of June 2008, that over 13 hours of video are uploaded every minute. Also - the third footnote at the end of that sentence (currently #10) links to a Daily Telegraph article that says only 10 hours are uploaded per minute, which is already an outdated statistic. Here is the quote from Hurley, followed by the URL:
"With hundreds of competitors out there, people like to point at the content—or what they would consider problems for us—as the reason for our growth. But really what it comes to, what people miss, is that we build a true community around video. And that these hundreds of competitors are dealing with the same problems, but they’re not having the same growth. So that kind of tells you that we have built features and a community around video that’s enabled us to continue to grow to this day. … We continue to scale and grow like crazy. … We serve hundreds of millions of videos every day through our system. We receive over 13 hours of video every minute on our site. And we are still the process of growing, so we can still continue to build an architecture, and it's gotten easier with Google's help."
Chad Hurley. “How We Did It.” NewTeeVee.com. June 27, 2008. Retrieved on 2008-10-10. From 11:20 - 12:50.
http://newteevee.com/2008/06/27/chad-hurley-how-we-did-it/
68.174.101.64 (talk) 05:56, 10 October 2008 (UTC) 68.174.101.64 (talk) 06:03, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
68.174.101.64 (talk) 20:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Done --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:25, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
"YouTube was hosting about 6.1 million videos (requiring about 600 terabytes of storage space)" : 100 Mb per video seems quite exaggerated to me... -- Tanynep -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.83.155.55 (talk) 16:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I think it would be really great if we can get more information (such as sim&diff) of youtubes at different countries. It'd be really helpful if we can have like translator who can translate other countrys' wiki and add those info. Also, can someone please change that "Republic of China" crap? It's seriously annoying when a few people becomes anal and claims that it's the "politically right" or that it's the "formal name" way, making no sense and are getting people confused (I don't see the "Demonion of Canada," "United Mexican States" or "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" do I?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Migleycow (talk • contribs) 15:36, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm not really sure if the long paragraph about Avril Lavigne's Girlfriend music video and the Evolution of Dance is necessary. But if it is, shouldn't it be mentioned also that there seems to be a much large number of favorites and ratings for the latter video? "Girlfriend" is only ranked #16 at number of favorites. That seems to point to some degree of fraud. 143.89.188.6 (talk) 12:45, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
No mention of false DMCA claims being used through YouTube? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.232.212.195 (talk) 00:42, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
I removed the part about stereo audio standard videos because a) it is now out of date, and b) it was becoming a long winded WP:NOTHOWTO of little interest to the average reader. The only official stereo videos on YouTube are the &fmt=18 versions, and this is mentioned in the article. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Ianmacm - your rationale for continuing to remove the information about file formats being treated differently does not seem valid. Seems presumptuous to declare one knows what the "average user" is or isn't going to be interested in. The section is called "Technical Notes", therefore it's the appropriate place for technical information. There's fairly extensive documentation of codecs, sampling frequencies etc. Mentioning this issue isn't a "how to" (and here's how you make an Xvid file...) it's presenting a more accurate overview and is clearly relevant to the topic. They can go elsewhere for the details. Mentioning the various codecs one can upload without mentioning that they aren't all handled equally well, particularly when YouTube itself addresses this issue although it's not obvious and easy to find - is incomplete and misleading. A brief mention of the issue is exactly the kind of thing anyone who uploads video would find of interest - unlikely anyone wants their video to be out of sync, etc. Audio sync is one of THE biggest gripes. It's valid, pertinent information and given what I've seen in various forums and on YouTube, at least being made aware of this could save a lot of people a lot of aggravation.Docsavage20 (talk) 18:49, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Ah, and now I see you've removed the &fmt=18 information in the Standard and High Quality area as well as the clarifier that Flash Video is what's being downloaded with both the standard and "watch in high quality" options but not with &fmt=18, which is a distinctly different option than "watch in high quality" - different file type, A/V bitrates, codecs - and should be explained in the article. The way it was gave a clear explanation of the different formats used and when. And you've cut out a major conceptual link between the audio and video information. Now the &fmt=18 option is mentioned only in the audio area, with nothing in the video information to conceptually tie them. It should be mentioned first in the "standard and high quality" section so when the reader gets to the audio section they'll have a point of reference. Now it's "what's this &fmt=18 all about?" Well folks, it *was* explained but someone decided it shouldn't be. All you've accomplished is dumbing down the page and creating ambiguity and confusion, apparently with the notion that this makes it "better". It's a technical section, it should be assumed someone reading it wants technical information. Now it reads like some crappy high school text book with concepts dropped in half-explained, cogent points omitted.Docsavage20 (talk) 14:05, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
One area of concern is sourcing for the bit rates. It is hard to find traditional sources for this, and most of the estimates seem to have come from tech enthusiasts who have read the stream info using various pieces of software. The estimate of 600-800kbps for fmt6 seemed to be on the high side, but the most important issue is keeping the purists happy with WP:V. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 14:46, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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