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WHO AGREES WITH ME? ME --201.138.124.63 00:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Sir Edgar thanks for the ESPN page now I have a reference and citations for the low quality football , and the low quality referees. Yes exactly from the ESPN page remember the football standard "was not quite up to scratch" and "the standard of refereeing described with alarming regularity in much less delicate fashion."[1] . If you want to see an amazing World Cup why dont you check out some 1970 videos or just turn your TV on and lets see how Korea plays without the help of the referees. :) --201.138.124.63 00:45, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Definetely the worst ever. This is the second world cup to have heavy controversy on refs. But at least in 1966 it was only one match. Koreans made this world cup suck. You can't even say that was Italy's fault to not score, because when they did it or they create an ocassion some ref with his pockets full of korean money made the impossible to invalidate it. Man, red car because you receive a kick?... at least he could pretend to make it a little bit cleaner. And for the guy of the first response... no bad attitude to you man, but... you really trust on FIFA as an objective point? they are going to make look wonderful everything they sponsor. And for ESPN and CNN... americans don't know much about soccer when Beckham isn't around. As a matter of fact, the spanish versions of those two networks were clearly critical on the 2002 world cup. Come on, every single NEUTRAL fan of good soccer says the same. Of course in Korea and USA they are going to make a big feast with this World Cup, they were the beneficiaries on the ref controversy. And the last point... obviously personal toughs: korean fans suck, you can't put "they were so great and bla, bla, bla" on the article... there is nothing like a stadium full of good latin barra brava style, some european ultras or those africans dancing even if they are 5-0 down.--Bauta 03:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
There is no such POV statement about any team on this page like that. It just states who won, etc. The details are in the match reports article.--Sir Edgar 00:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
If you guys know some history about Seoul Olympic, you will totally understand the 2002 world cup. Just typical Korea behavior. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.117.219 (talk) 17:48, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I can't agree with 68.145.117.219's opinion. Seoul Olympic was great olympic ever, why don't you say that Beijing Olympic was worse than 88 Olympics? you bester.--222.109.31.83 (talk) 13:12, 10 November 2009 (UTC) I agree with 68.145.117.219. 222.109.31.83, you don't agree because you are brainwashed by Korean Fascism. Koreans cheated, and stupidly, even their prime minister praised for their cheated result calling it the greatest achievement in Korea history. LOL. I found it funny. Stupid Koreans really run out of achievements. Hello Koreans, the Brazilians have won the World Cup so many times. Does it mean Koreans' "Greatest achievement in history can't even match routine brazil victory? Stupid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.81.67.183 (talk) 18:03, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
In the detailed match listings (where they list the goal scorers and times, it correctly lists the Korea 2 - 1 Italy match as AET, but it does not list it as AET in the bracket above it. Can someone please fix this? Thank you.
It's frustrating that this article don't say what the whole world saw because one of the "red devils" (very original, a mess that Belgium, Man Utd, and Indpte copy that...) want this to be his page... so I put this message on his talk page, and now for every one:
Just seeing the history of the article. Why you delete information that can even be documented?, that every one, except for corean nationalists, agrees? If you are corean, or just think that they finish fourth because they were an incredible awesome super cool team... please, try to move on and accept that the 2002 world cup was full of controversy, specially with the corean matches.--Bauta 03:13, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Ok, here it is from the high and mighty ESPN, but the latin ESPN (Not spanish... latin)[2]: "Luego que Japón quedara eliminado por una gran actuación turca, Corea quería mantenerse en pie frente a la poderosa Italia. Y lo logró bajo dramáticas y controvertidas circunstancias. ... ... Millones salieron a las cancas a festejar semejante triunfo, pero no sería la última vez que lo harían, en parte, gracias a la ayuda arbitral. ... ...Korea entonces se convirtió en el primer conjunto asiático en llegar a esa instancia y aumentó el festejo de los aficionados así como también las críticas por el método de selección de los árbitros."
Traduced: "After Japan was eliminated by a great turkish performance, Korea wanted to stay on their feets against the powerful Italy. And they did it under dramatic and controversial circumstances. ... ... Millions were into the streets to celebrate the big victory, but this wasn't the last time they would, partly, thanks to the referee's help. ... ... So Korea became the first asian team to reach the semifinals and increased the fans celebration and the critics for the referee selection method."
And from your awesome super cool BBC [3]:
Awful? pre-meditated? outrageous? provocative?... well... maybe they are racists or neo-nazis, how can people say that Korea wasn't the incredible super fine yoopie team that deserved the championship?.
Documentated... and don't throw accuastions of racism so easily, that's a very serious matter.--Bauta 16:38, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to go about giving my opinion or editing here, but I find some parts of the article on the 2002 unjustifiable. The descriptions of other world cups sound objective but this sounds like someone grinding an axe. I believe I can offer a balanced report, but I don't know exactly how to edit being new to this site. I was just appauled at the account as a soccer fan for the following reasons:
Italians and Spanish think there were problems with the refereeing, but many people think Korea out-hustled the teams they beat while receiving no more favoritism from the refs than other hosting countries have received over the years. Anyway, it's not our job to decide it, but to represent the controversy. In the middle of the peice, "debateable and controversial" sounds like an argument not a report, and "several erroneous decisions" is a foregone conclusion. The most that can be said object ively is "controversial".
The last two lines are a disgrace to this encyclopedia and need to be fixed.
Firstly, this is far from 'one of the most controversial' world cups. 1966 and 1990 had very controversial calls in the final game and 1934 had Mussolini meeting with referees. "There was controversy surrounding would be more accurate", but I believe nothing at all here would be better. It is by no means "widely regarded". I follow soccer closely and no-one I know regards the controversies in 2002 as that big.
Secondly, the "widely rumored" comment is simply libelous. I have never heard of this rumor except as a wild specualtion. It certainly does not belong in what should be an objective account.
Actually, erasing these is the only solution I see as they are both speculative and do not represent the World Cup accurately. I believe we should make mention of the controversy without drawing conclusions.
I think I can write a proposed edit but am not sure how to go about that. Can anyone advise? - ksmyth, July 18, 2006.
Since the talk on the 2006 is way too long, and the issue not quite the same, I'm responding here. I fail to see the need for a listing of the group stage teams in the Knockout stages section. If a reader wants to know who came out of what group there's an entire section on the group stages. - Pal 04:13, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
the bracket diagram is messed up (Turkey and Brazil seemed to be switched).
This guy is vandalizing the page: 81.155.3.180
--Peripatetic 20:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
It's been done again 22:56 22 June 2006 (GMT)
More vandalism in Group C. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.95.5.103 (talk) 06:47, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering if the article should have links to the match reports, as per the 2006 FIFA World Cup article. Is there any reason not to? The reports seem to be available from two locations:
I can't find the 1998 world cup site... so on the assumption that FIFA are going to move the reports around every few years, would linking to the 2006 site be better? --StuartBrady (Talk) 14:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
I added an awards section for every world cup. I don't know if you like the format I have it in, but I do think it is important that we have these awards for each tournaments article. Let me know what you guys think.Squadoosh 07:00, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I really like the idea of having a full team ranking for each World Cup. Someone else do not and keeps deleting it. In past World Cups FIFA has adopted it to decide which teams could go through the knockout stages, and they are still using in World Cup Qual stages. And It is very good to give an idea of a team's overall performance in the cup. I would like to know why you keep deleting it (and please do not reply that it compares apples with oranges, because it does not).--130.251.4.11 13:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
The infobox says 161, someone just typed 158 above the list of scorers, I count 157 from the scorers section (thanks to Excel). Is there an official figure? SLUMGUM yap stalk 22:17, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Why is Saudi Arabia classified as an AFC participant? Isn't it middleeastern? Oyo321 05:52, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes but the middle east is part of the asian continent
How is a youtube video a reasonable source to state that Totti was wrongfully sent off in that game. I removed the source and tried to keep NPOV.
--207.35.14.235 02:12, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
The youtube video showed from different angles the controversial playing action. If you were honest, you would at least have left the reference there so that everybody could make his own mind. By acting as you did you committed censorship, wich is a well-known practice in Asian countries.
This is just sad and let everybody understand the level of censorship some Asian countries experience on a daily basis
What is surprising is that france did something smart. See had Uraguay defeated france they would have qualified for the round of 16 over senagal. Because of uraguay's goal differeance.
how is that smart?--Numberwang 15:50, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
and that doesnt even make sense.Numberwang 15:52, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
The summary should mention the major controversial calls, but the previous version seemed especially targeted to imply something sinister about just one country. Many sentences had links to articles that had nothing like that sentence. There were many bad calls, and you can Google an article about your favorite bad call; don't hand-pick only commentaries on the Korea games. News articles that overview the whole 2002 World Cup mention various bad calls, don't just quote the sentence about Korea. That's all I'm saying. CBJourney 00:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree. South Korea was one of two host nations and was certainly not the only country that made headlines. The fact that this bias in summary exists possibly highlights an underlying tone of nationalistic resentment between various participating nations of which Korea is involved in. There seems to be a few low-key articles related to Korea that have deliberate spelling and grammar errors as well as questionable content which are not based on proven facts. The regular occurence of this and the deliberate nature of these errors (digits to 'dights' for example on Repulic of Korea Passports page or the deliberate dropping of required articles of the English language such as 'the' and 'a') in these articles suggests there may be a collective faction of sorts, promoting some type of nationalistic/political cause. JohnR 02:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.170.216 (talk)
Is it me, fifa or wikipedia who has it wrong? I thought that teams that meet in the group stage can only meet again if they are in the final together. Spain and Paraguay were in the same group and advanced to the knock-out stages, but it would be possible fot them to have met in the semi finals, the same thing with Denmark and Senegal, England and Sweden and Japan and Belgum, all of the teams to be precise. Was this a unique format? Because I know that in the 2006 World cup, group winners and runners up could only meet again if they were in the final.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.6.197.184 (talk) 17:56, 5 December 2007
"The first goal should really be marked down as an error by Germany goalkeeper, Oliver Kahn, who failed to deal with a long-range shot from Rivaldo, spilling the ball directly into Ronaldo's path. The second goal was much better taken" sounds very POV. Does anyone else think this should be changed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.238.126.9 (talk) 17:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Who on the Earth said Argentina as the "second most favorite team"? As far as I know, France and Brazil were the favorite teams to take the trophy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.58.171.248 (talk) 01:42, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Can someone give third party input on the inclusion of the dodgy refereeing calls that I have highlighted on this article. My correctly cited facts are being removed with bullshit reasons and I don't want to argue about it anymore. カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 02:30, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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--JeffGBot (talk) 09:19, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Almost all won of South korean was won by refree. This issue should me mentioned here. Wikipedia is a history. all truth should be writtten , thats the NPOV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parvez gsm (talk • contribs) 09:44, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
I agree with the original poster - the refereeing controversies (concerning Korea) were quite widespread at this tournament and widely discussed in media. See for example:
or
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/page/worldcup101-03242010/ce/us/ten-most-controversial-moments&cc=5901?ver=us — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.18.26.14 (talk) 19:38, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi there, Noticed that Walter Görlitz liked the image of the flag displayed at the 2002 FIFA World Cup, but deleted it because it didn't seem to relate to the adjacent paragraph. The section above it contains an image of the World Cup mascot, embedded in a paragraph describing the previous match. I added the flag image to the next section, simply to continue the spirit of World Cup imagery already established on the page. Please accept my apologies if I disturbed your hard work. My intention was to add visual interest to the article by adding material related to the event as a whole. Thanks for your time.Global Microscope (talk) 18:55, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Good question. I found an independent reference that mentions the flag, the artist, and the location as the 2002 World Cup. The rest was frustratingly vague. There was a live link to it on the Wiki page, Ray Burggraf. I'll check and see if it's still there. It would be interesting to find out more....Global Microscope (talk) 02:50, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
OK, here's what I found about the image of the flag by Ray Burggraf: In 2002, the Department of Cultural Affairs published a 295 page book entitled, "2002 Flag Art Festival, Poetry of the Winds, FIFA World Cup, Korea/Japan". Here's the link: http://books.google.com/books/about/2002_Flag_Art_Festival.html?id=SnxNHQAACAAJ. The title of the book suggests (to me, at least) a solid link between the festival and FIFA. The same year, SVAD News published a mention of the artist, saying on page 3, that "Ray Burggraf was invited to enter a hand-painted banner into the exhibition, 'Poetry of the Winds', 2002 Flag Festival, 2002 FIFA World Cup Korea/Japan, Nanjicheon Park, Seoul." Here's the link: http://www.fsu.edu/~svad/SVADNews1.pdf. The second reference places the flag specifically at Nanjicheon Park, Seoul...which, according to http://www.exploringkorea.com/world-cup-park-seoul/, is a subsection of "World Cup Park", meaning it's one of the five parks surrounding the World Cup stadium. Given these reference, it seems a shame not to use the image...but I'm struggling to find more. Suggestions?Global Microscope (talk) 03:15, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Eureka!! Walter, I just found the best (verifiable) reference possible--confirming that the Flag Art Festival was the official cultural event of the 2002 World Cup, and officially approved by FIFA. No inference needed. (Regarding the proposed image for this article: File:"In_Search_of_Fresh_Air",_by_Ray_L._Burggraf.jpg) Here's a press release by the 2002 Flag Art Festival Executive Committee: http://www.le-musee-divisioniste.org/service/pages/2002/flagart2.htm. Quote: Flag Art Festival, Seoul (Korea) / The official cultural event of 2002 FIFA World Cup Korea/JapanTM...Press Release...2002 Flag Art Festival is to be held at World Cup Park from May 29 to June 25 this year, and this is to wish the successful World Cup and create the festivity atmosphere. This festival, as the official cultural event of 2002 FIFA Word Cup Korea/JapanTM, greets the World Cup, the place of harmony and festival of the whole world, representing the cultural World Cup through the unique form of flags... So yes...to answer your excellent question, the image is rather convincingly an artifact of the official cultural event of the 2002 World Cup, approved by FIFA. Does this help?Global Microscope (talk) 18:35, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Well, I'm getting the impression that there are no further objections to my replacing the image within the article. Looks like I should have included better referencing last time, and next time I can include all citations linking the image directly to FIFA. All good?Global Microscope (talk) 02:15, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
In the 2010 article, a new section for the FIFA cultural event, and the flag image, would fit very well near the Awards section. The 2010 article has a "Symbols" section adjacent to "Awards", and offers close visual proximity to other artwork, such as the image of the mascot. The 2002 article is organized quite differently, though. No Symbols section exists and the image of the mascot (artwork related to the event) is placed in the First Round section of the Summary. Our priority is to keep the images inline with related content, right? I'd be happy to create a new section describing FIFA's designated cultural event per your suggestion. I would, however, prefer to place it in a section related to either, (1) the artwork's role as an official welcome of the festivities ( as mentioned in the Press Release) or (2) it's intended symbolism of global unification. In case #1, the section should be placed directly after the Summary, just before Ticket Problems. Chronologically, the flags were intended as a greeting, and that should be reflected by the structure of the article. In the second case, it would fit after Host Selection. This would be my personal preference... two countries serving as host is a rare event, and the theme of global unification...represented by 500 flags from all over the world...would tie in nicely with the existing paragraph about the two hosts..Global Microscope (talk) 20:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
It might also be said that I can get--ahem--overly philosophical. :) Walter, why don't you go ahead and create the section exactly as you see fit? The file name and citations are all available, above. I'd love to see your version in situ.Global Microscope (talk) 22:26, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Why are there no mentions of the match fixing that happened in the 2002 world cup, where South Korea won against Italy and Spain by blatant cheating. This is no football rivalry, it is this. 2.103.198.253 (talk) 17:10, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Group G says that Mexico qualified after two wins in its group... But this isn't true. Mexico would had been out of the next stage IF both Italy and Croatia would had won their respective games by a big enough margin to kick Mexico out. My English is bad, I know. But I just wanted to point that out. Have a nice day.
Apparent, https://www.duhoctrungquoc.vn/wiki/index.php?lang=en&q=2002_FIFA_World_Cup&oldid=617594892&diff=prev old versions of Yahoo, an official FIFA sponsor at the time, are more accurate than the numbers in FIFA's official Report and Statistics on the tournament. Care to explain that thought? The official report was made after the tournament and is supported by FIFA. The individual pages are not longer supported and they may have been listed long before final capacity were agreed upon. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:21, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
why isn't there anything about this? Wikipedia is part of it or what?, stop being biased and add it! sources: - First of all, obvious is obvious - http://www.goal.com/en/news/1884/north-america/2010/09/21/2130136/infamous-south-korea-italy-world-cup-2002-referee-byron - http://www.mediotiempo.com/futbol/internacional/noticias/2015/05/29/acusan-a-fifa-de-amano-de-partidos-en-2002 - http://www.garrypassarella.co.uk/2010/06/04/the-robbery-in-korea-koreas-controversial-progress-in-the-2002-world-cup-finals/ 89.13.133.77 (talk) 14:35, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
Wiki keeps loosing reliability. (or is watch over by FIFA somehow) how is there not a single mention of the controversial games between Korea - Italy and Korea - Spain. As you can see above me, I am definitely not the only one pointing them out, and when someone cites a good source, he is ignored. Please Wiki English. you guys are supposed to document Everything relating the title topic. The accusations and controversies are real and should be included. a couple sources: - http://screamer.deadspin.com/italian-paper-alleges-fifa-used-corrupt-refs-to-fix-200-1707704308 - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/3029872/Korean-miracle-spoilt-by-refereeing-farce.html - http://www.eurosport.com/football/south-korea-results-from-2002-world-cup-now-under-scrutiny_sto4758133/story.shtml - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/630035-ranking-the-top-10-world-football-scandals-of-all-time
Also this one, regarding the voting: - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3132045/FIFA-hit-fresh-corruption-claims-Japan-accused-paying-South-American-federation-950-000-2002-World-Cup-vote.html
I kindly ask you to please update the article with this information
thank you.2003:75:F6F:F599:DD2A:241E:7B4A:33E7 (talk) 21:58, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
it might interest you to look at the my comments in this new section regarding this issue. Cheerio! Asoccer maniac (talk) 00:18, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi everyone.
I know that this is not the first conversation about this, but I'm trying to resurrect the List of 2002 Fifa World Cup controversies article.
Those of you who followed the process will remember it was the subject of two deletion debtates, and then closed down and SALTed. Since I believe that controversial incidents are a window into the development and evolution of the game. I hope as many of you as possible will join me in this effort.
Merry Xmas one and all! Asoccer maniac (talk) 00:08, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
PS, the draft for the new article is here. Asoccer maniac (talk) 01:03, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
The PK session between Spain and Republic of Ireland could use an indicator of who went first (the Irish). This is not intuitively clear because Spain is on the left while Ireland is on the right. As it is the reader has to work it out based on what happened with the last penalties shot - Mendieta's was successful and Spain won ergo Spain shot second. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.95.207 (talk) 07:53, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
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Hey Everyone,
I am looking to add some information to this page for a college course I am taking on Japanese/Korean Culture and Relations. Now that it has nearly been 20 years since the World Cup took place, I would like to include some economic implications and effects on the host countries. Below are a few Economic studies that I have found that I will cite in my inclusion.
Thoughts/Feedback?
Thanks
Lee, Choong-Ki, and Tracy Taylor. "Critical reflections on the economic impact assessment of a mega-event: the case of 2002 FIFA World Cup." Tourism management 26.4 (2005): 595-603.
Kim, Hyun Jeong, Dogan Gursoy, and Soo-Bum Lee. "The impact of the 2002 World Cup on South Korea: Comparisons of pre-and post-games." Tourism Management 27.1 (2006): 86-96.
Kim, Samuel Seongseop, and James F. Petrick. "Residents’ perceptions on impacts of the FIFA 2002 World Cup: the case of Seoul as a host city." Tourism Management 26.1 (2005): 25-38.
Horne, John D., and Wolfram Manzenreiter. "Accounting for mega-events: forecast and actual impacts of the 2002 Football World Cup Finals on the host countries Japan/Korea." International review for the sociology of sport 39.2 (2004): 187-203. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwright123 (talk • contribs) 08:44, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Poorly sourced standalone article; could easily be summarized at World Cup entry --Another Believer (Talk) 15:58, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
I have upgraded everything on the 1994 World Cup and 1998 World Cup. I have upgraded from round of 16 to final which works successfully but tried upgrading groups but nothing showed up, help needed please.GBT00 (talk) 11:17, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Should the name of the host nation include an inline link to the nation's article? For example, should the first instance of the names "South Korea" and "Japan" be bracketed so as to provide links to South Korea and Japan? Rowsdower45 (talk) 06:15, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
I have made a GAN for this article. Hope it gets accepted. SpyridisioAnnis Discussion 02:55, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
Someone just vandalised the bracket. Somedev123Gtg (talk) 12:26, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
I found that the standings of group C are wrong. I see Turkey in first place, and Brazil with 2 won matches, when in fact they have won all of 3 in group C. I don't know if it's an issue too in different groups. 84.198.165.236 (talk) 09:04, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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