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1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches

Between 1870 and 1872, the Football Association (FA) organised five representative association football matches between teams representing England and Scotland, all held in London.

The first of these matches was held at The Oval on 5 March 1870, and the fifth was on 21 February 1872. The matches, which were organised by Charles W. Alcock, are the precursors to modern international football and were referred to as internationals at the time. They are not recognised, however, as full internationals by FIFA as the players competing in the Scotland team were drawn only from London-based Scottish players. They were followed by the 1872 match in Glasgow between Scotland and England which is recognised as the first international match.

The first match

1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches 
Report of the first match on 5 March 1870, preserved in Arthur Kinnaird's cuttings book

The 1870 match was initiated by Charles W. Alcock who placed advertisements in Scottish newspapers, including the following letter in the Glasgow Herald on 3 November 1870 regarding the second of the five fixtures:

FOOTBALL. ENGLAND V SCOTLAND. Sir, will you allow me a few lines in your newspaper to notify to Scotch players that a match under the above title will take place in London on Sat 10th inst., according to the rules of the Football Association. It is the object of the committee to select the best elevens at their disposal in the two countries, and I cannot but think that the appearance of some of the more prominent celebrities of football on the northern side of the Tweed would do much to disseminate a healthy feeling of good fellowship among the contestants and tend to promote a still greater extent the extension of the game...

The first match, then, was organised by the FA and resulted in a 1–1 draw. The match was delayed two weeks from its advertised date due to excessive frost which had made the ground "dangerously unfit for play". Alcock captained the England team whilst Scotland were led by James Kirkpatrick. The match was 0–0 when the teams changed end at half-time – a rule that The Sporting Gazette of Saturday 12 March 1870 described as new – but Scotland took a lead through a goal by Robert Crawford after England had moved their goalkeeper upfield. England fought back to score through Baker to salvage a draw before the end of the game. W. H. Gladstone, an MP and son of the sitting Prime Minister W. E. Gladstone, appeared for Scotland and, according to the Manchester Guardian, "did good service on the part of the Scottish team".

England 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches 1–11870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Scotland
Baker 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  89' (Report) Crawford 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  75'

Subsequent matches

The following four matches were held on: 19 November 1870, 25 February 1871, 17 November 1871 and 24 February 1872. All matches were advertised in Scottish newspapers, but the players were drawn from those who played by Football Association rules – still limited at the time and largely consisting of only London-based Scottish players. England were victorious 1–0 in the November 1870 match, 2–1 in the November 1871 match and 1–0 in the February 1872 match; the February 1871 match was drawn 1–1. The only recorded attendance figure known is 650, from the second match. Formation data does not exist from three of the matches, but it is known that in the third and fifth matches both teams lined up with a '1–1–8' formation.

Results

v 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Scotland
19 November 1870 England 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  1–0 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Scotland London, England
Walker 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  10' (Summary)
(Report)		 Stadium: The Oval
Attendance: 650
v 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Scotland
25 February 1871 England 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  1–1 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Scotland London, England
Walker 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  (Summary) Nepean 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  15' Stadium: The Oval
Attendance: 500+
v 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Scotland
18 November 1871 England 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  2–1 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Scotland London, England
Walker 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  (Summary) Renny-Tailyour 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Stadium: The Oval
v 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Scotland
24 February 1872 England 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  1–0 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Scotland London, England
Clegg 1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  (Summary) Stadium: The Oval

Player appearances

The following players appeared in the five matches:

Country Player Club(s) Appearances Goals
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Charles W. Alcock Wanderers and Harrow Pilgrims 5
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Alfred J. Baker N.N. Club and Wanderers 3 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Thomas S. Baker Clapham Rovers 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Morton Betts West Kent, Harrow Chequers and Wanderers 2
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Alexander Bonsor Wanderers 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Edward E. Bowen Wanderers 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  William C. Butler Barnes Club and Civil Service 2
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Thomas N. Carter Eton College 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Charles Chenery Crystal Palace and Wanderers 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Charles Clegg Wednesday 1 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  John Cockerell Brixton Club 2
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  William Crake Harrow School, Barnes Club, Harrow Chequers and Wanderers 4
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Evelyn Freeth Civil Service and Wanderers 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Thomas Hooman Wanderers 3
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Jarvis Kenrick Clapham Rovers 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Edgar Lubbock Old Etonians, West Kent and Wanderers 5
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Alexander Nash Clapham Rovers and Wanderers 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Walter Paton Harrow School 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Henry J. Preston Eton College 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Giulio C. Smith Crusaders and Wanderers 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Charles W. Stephenson Westminster School and Wanderers 3
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Albert Thompson Eton College and Wanderers 2
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Alfred H. Thornton Old Harrovians and Wanderers 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Walpole Vidal Westminster School, Wanderers and Old Westminsters 5
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Robert S. F. Walker Clapham Rovers and Wanderers 3 4
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Percy Weston Barnes Club 2
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Charles Wollaston Oxford University and Wanderers 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  William Bailey Civil Service 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Charles R. Baillie-Hamilton Civil Service 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  William A. Baillie-Hamilton Old Harrovians 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Galfred Congreve Old Rugbeians 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Fitzgerald H. Crawford Harrow Chequers and Wanderers 2
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Robert Crawford Harrow School, Harrow Chequers and Wanderers 4 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Edward H.M. Elliot Harrow Chequers and Wanderers 2
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Harold S. Ferguson Royal Artillery 2
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  William H. Gladstone Old Etonians and Wanderers 2
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  George C. Gordon No Names 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Quintin Hogg Wanderers 2
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  John F. Inglis Charterhouse School and Wanderers 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Gilbert G. Kennedy Wanderers 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Arthur Kinnaird Crusaders and Wanderers 3
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  James Kirkpatrick Civil Service and Wanderers 4
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  William Lindsay Old Wykehamists, Rochester Club and Civil Service 5
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Frederick Maddison Rochester Club and Oxford University 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  John W. Malcolm London Scottish Rifles 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Hugh Mitchell Royal Engineers 2
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Alexander Morten Crystal Palace and Wanderers 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Kenneth Muir Mackenzie Old Carthusians 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Montague Muir Mackenzie Old Carthusians 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Charles Nepean Oxford University and Wanderers 4 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Gilbert E. Primrose Civil Service 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Henry Primrose Civil Service 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Edward V. Ravenshaw Charterhouse School 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Henry W. Renny-Tailyour Royal Engineers 1 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Arnold Kirke Smith Civil Service and Oxford University 2
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Robert Smith Queen's Park 3
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Henry H. Stewart Wanderers 1
1870–1872 England V Scotland Representative Football Matches  Charles Thompson Cambridge University and Wanderers 1

Reaction and the creation of international football

Following the games, there was resentment in Scotland that their team did not contain more home grown players. Alcock himself was categorical about where he felt responsibility for this fact lay, writing in the Scotsman newspaper:

"I must join issue with your correspondent in some instances. First, I assert that of whatever the Scotch eleven may have been composed the right to play was open to every Scotchman [Alcock's italics] whether his lines were cast North or South of the Tweed and that if in the face of the invitations publicly given through the columns of leading journals of Scotland the representative eleven consisted chiefly of Anglo-Scotians ... the fault lies on the heads of the players of the north, not on the management who sought the services of all alike impartially. To call the team London Scotchmen contributes nothing. The match was, as announced, to all intents and purposes between England and Scotland".

Many of the players in Scotland did not play to the FA's rules at the time, inhibiting the possibility of a truly representative match between the two countries. Eventually, the FA decided in its minutes of 3 October 1872 note that:

In order to further the interests of the Association in Scotland, it was decided that during the current season, a team should be sent to Glasgow to play a match v Scotland.

The challenge was eventually taken up by Queen's Park and this match, in 1872 is the earliest international football match recognised by FIFA, though at the time it was considered as a continuation of the previous internationals. In March 1873 the Scottish Football Association was created to support the coordination of football in Scotland, taking on responsibility for selecting Scottish teams, and the Football Association began to take the role as an English only organisation.

See also

References

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