As far as I know there is no standardised/academic/educational Cree.
There is a standardisation process by people like Arok Wolvengrey in using SRO when writing Cree, but that is still dialect dependent. I don't think this is the place to try and create some sort of standard, across-dialect Cree language. As for the suggestions about 'r' and 'l'....Nehiyawewin does not have these sounds at all, so including them in the Nehiyawewin dialect would be rather bizarre. Yiwahikanak
Why not attempt writing articles in some form of a standardize dialect (an academic/educational Cree) based on a middle ground, not simply one dialect or another. For example, y-dialect speakers east of james bay have had access only to l-dialect bibles and religious materials for over 100 years until they finally translated one in the local dialect. However, an l-dialect is very easy to convert into a y, n, th, or r dialect, but the reverse is not true for a y or n dialect. Elders today still use the l-dialect material without a problem. Also, k- over palatalized ch- should be preferred since all cases of palatalization are predictable. Any idiosyncrasies found only in one dialect should be avoided, such as the vowel /e/ having changed to /aa/ in northern east cree and to /ii/ in woods cree. This would make the wikipedia articles much easier to read for all dialects. So to recap,
we should use the letter l, r, of th over y or n (so that all the dialects can easily replace the letter) we should use the k over palatalized -ch- since the palatized ch is always predictable and use the vowel e as opposed to "aa" or "ii"
For those who do not have any knowledge of where the l, k, an e go, we could agree to edit the pages to make them more comprehensible. Also, I suggested that we call the whole language Nehirawewin or Nehilawewin (which is the Historical form of the word (see sources from the 1600 hundreds) and also uses the r in line with the above ideas.
I will also start contributing using the above rules in the near futur (I didnt even know this wikipidiya existed!).
Kevin B. October 25, 2009
Kevin B. Aug. 2, 2011
This wikipedia is labelled as Nehiyawewin, the Plains or 'Y' dialect. As you move further east, the Cree dialects diverge a fair amount, though are still generally intelligible. However, if we start including Anishnabe or other Algonkian languages, we get further and further away from actual Nehiyawewin.
I'm suggesting we try to stick with Nehiyawewin in the main, either in RSO or in syllabics. Since it probably isn't feasible to have a separate wikipedia for every dialect of Cree (yet), then having articles in those other dialects would be fine...but what if we have a specific section for those articles? A section just for the TH, N etc dialects? Part of the benefit of developing this wikipedia is to provide language resources to those who are trying to gain more fluency. If we waffle between dialects we might harm more than we help.
I'm going to work on updating the main page to reflect a Nehiyawewin focus, and I'll reorganise the existing articles in other dialects so they can still be accessed. If later on, this is challenged, I have no problem with a reversion, but it's a discussion that needs more than one person to engage in :D Yiwahikanak 17:28, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I think we should just close this down. No one ever contributes anything, and no one uses it.--68.170.86.111 01:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Some characters only show up as vertical rectangles. 69.151.144.43 10:53, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I have been given temporary admin powers to delete the articles that had no useful content. If this project gets vandalised again, a trusted user can request temporary sysophood at m:Requests for permission. I will now be asking for a de-admin, because I won't be around to check things anyways. - Andre Engels 11:09, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
I have tried to update this encyclopedia and give it some allure. I have noticed that for some reason when linking these wikipedia pages with pages in other languages that I have been accused of being a vandal more than once :) I suppose people don't like being linked with this wikipedia, although I admit the articles are very small. I don't have time to write articles but I hope to awaken interest in what could be a vibrant Wikipidiya! ᓀᐦᐊᓂᒪᐤ 07:57, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
:^)
– Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 09:10, 12 November 2006 (UTC)This Wikipedia still uses the English version of the logo. Once we come up with a translation for "Wiki ᓃᔥᑕᒻᐹᔅᑌᒋᓂᑲᓐ" and "The Free Encyclopedia", we can ask for a translation of the logo. I suppose ᐧᐃᑭᐱᑎᔭ means Wikipedia, right? – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 21:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
When I look at the main-main page of wikipedia http://www.wikipedia.org, I notice that the Cree language is labelled "Nēhiyaw / ᓀᐦᐃᔭᐤ". According to several Plains Cree dictionaries, Nēhiyaw / ᓀᐦᐃᔭᐤ means "a Cree person". The term for the language is Nēhiyawēwin / ᓀᐦᐃᔭᐍᐏᐣ. The dictionaries are: Wolfart & Ahenakew’s "The Student’s Dictionary of Literary Plains Cree” and LeClaire & Cardinal’s “Alberta Elders’ Cree Dictionary”. Can we change the language label to Nēhiyawēwin / ᓀᐦᐃᔭᐍᐏᐣ? Also, I wonder what the policy is for languages with no officially sanctioned dialect. Wikipedia’s using the Plains Cree name, but there are quite a few variants: ᓀᐦᐃᔭᐍᒧᐏᐣ, ᓀᐦᐃᖬᐍᐏᐣ, ᐃᓂᓃᒧᐏᐣ, ᐃᓂᓂᐎ ᐃᔑᑭᔗᐎᐣ, ᐃᓕᓖᒧᐎᓐ, ᐄᔨᔫ ᐊᔨᒨᓐ, ᐄᓅ ᐊᔨᒨᓐ. Languagegeek 06:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
About the idea of a standard dialect, see the topic at the top of this page. It is important that dialects at the far ends of the continuum arent used since these are unintelligible to people at the other of end of the dialect continuum. I suggest above that a medium be used, a dialect similar to Moose Cree of Atikamekw for purposes of phonology, but supplanted with ones own vocabulary. This should be quite interesting in itself since it would encourage us all to learn vocabulary from various dialects. --Kuihkun 14:10, 26 October 2009 (UTC)kuihkun
I am interested in watching the cree language, but what I can only see are some squares.. I have a Windows XP PC, could somebody help me telling me how can I watch the letters? Thanks, --213.96.130.227 03:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC) The answers could be here: Epiovesan - (write)
Ideally, contributors would be using both syllabics and standard roman orthography, but I know for myself, I don't yet have a grasp of the syllabics, so I'm going to be sticking with the SRO for now. I also think we need to be using both in any case, because depending on where you live, syllabics may or may not be used. I will be making contributions in the Y dialect, and using Albertan macrons (âîô) as well as 'h' joiners instead of hyphens. I realise that there is still no agreement on a standard method of writing Cree in SRO, but I think it's better to get some more content in here than wait:)Yiwahikanak 17:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
From your main page you can not go to polish wikipedia it's pl.wikipedia.org . It's forth Wikipedia in the whole world, why it;s not linking with this??? Good luck for your Wiki Nehiyaw. Szymon Żywicki 15:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Now, yes. Thanks --Szymon Żywicki 07:56, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello! I am a Polish wikipedian and I would like to ask you for your help - writing a new article about former Polish President who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1983 – Lech Wałęsa. I have looked for his biography in your Wikipedia but without success. Polish Wikipedians will be grateful for your help. Thank you so much in advance! PS you can find the English version of the article here. Best wishes from Poland, Patrol110 16:35, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there any diaphonemic system for Cree? For Chinese language (which is generally considered not a language, but a language family) we have a system called en:General Chinese, which is trans-dialect; the English alphabet itself, is diaphonemic. I think a diaphonemic system will also be useful for Cree. Qiu Xae 16:36, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Dear friends, may I ask you to add a hyperlink to our Tatar Wikipedia (http://tt.wikipedia.org) to yourr Front page. Tatars - are turkic nation living in Tatarstan Republic, second biggest nation in Russian Federation. hope to hear from you soon. sincerely yours, Muhtac 21:48, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Since Cree comprises different dialects, I think we should create sub-sections on this Wiki for each of them. Only the main ones (i.e. the one that are not understandable between each other) should have their own section (I know there is sub-dialect inside those main ones, but in those cases, I think we should just pick one for a given article, like on the English Wikipedia where some articles use British orthograph and others American). I have started a draft of a new Main Page to sort those out : User:Amqui/Main page. Please give me your feedback on that. What we need to do now is to sort out the existing articles by the dialect they are written in. This can be done by putting them in the appropriate dialect category (those categories also need to be created, example [[Category:Naskapi]], [[Category:Plains Cree]], etc.. but should have the title in their respective dialect). Next, we have two options: creating articles in a single dialect and we can have two different articles on the same subject written in two differents dialects, or include all dialects in the same page in different sections (with redirections from the different titles), what do you think ?
Étant donné que la langue crie comprend différents dialectes, je crois que nous devrions créer des sous-sections sur ce Wiki pour chacun d'eux. Seulement les principaux (i.e. ceux qui ne sont intelligibles entre eux) devraient avoir leur propre section (je sais qu'il y a des sous-dialectes dans les principaux, mais pour ceux-ci, je crois que nous devrions seulement en choisir un pour un article donné, comme sur le Wikipédia en anglais où l'orthographe britannique est utilisée pour certains articles et américaine pour d'autres). J'ai commencé une ébauche pour une nouvelle page d'accueil pour trier les dialectes : User:Amqui/Main page. Veuillez me donner vos avis sur celle-ci. Ce que nous devons faire maintenant est de trier les articles existants selon le diaclecte dans lesquels ils sont écrits. Cela peut être fait en les mettant dans la catégorie de dialecte appropriée (ces catégories sont aussi à créer, exemple [[Category:Naskapi]], [[Category:Plains Cree]], etc.. mais elles devraient avoir un titre dans le dialecte respectif). Ensuite, nous avons deux options : créer les articles dans un seul dialecte et nous pouvons avoir deux articles sur le même sujet écrit dans deux dialectes différents ou bien inclure tous les dialectes dans la même page dans des sections différentes (avec des redirections à partir des différents titres), qu'en pensez-vous ?
Amqui 07:09, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
There is a discussion to change the logo of the Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Community Portal#Logo. Amqui (talk) 23:27, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
There are words that have the same orthography even though it's two different languages. Example: Atikmw means "dog" in East Cree and in Atikamekw. How can we differ these articles? The problem is, that the Cree "dialects" (languages) have one portal together what means that it's not shown as "East Cree" / "Atikamekw" but as Nēhiyawēwin / ᓀᐦᐃᔭᐍᐏᐣ. So we have two articles written in two different languages which are both presented as "Nēhiyawēwin / ᓀᐦᐃᔭᐍᐏᐣ" under "Other languages". Kiackw, 14 June 2013
Il y a des mots qui ont la même orthographe bien que ce soit deux langues différentes. Par exemple: Atimw veut dire "chien" en cri de l'est et en atikamekw. Comment est-ce qu'on peut différencier ces articles-là? Le problème, c'est qu'on utilise un même portail pour les huit "dialectes" (langues) cri(e)s. Ca veut dire que "Wikipédia" ne fait pas la différence entre les huit langues et ne montre pas les articles comme "Cri de l'est" et "Atikamekw" mais tous les deux comme "Nēhiyawēwin / ᓀᐦᐃᔭᐍᐏᐣ". Donc, on a deux articles en deux langues différentes qui sont tous les deux montrés en "Nēhiyawēwin / ᓀᐦᐃᔭᐍᐏᐣ" au-dessous de "Autres langues". Kiackw, 14 Juin 2013
Hi there. First off, not that any of my business, but I'm not sure if a wiki with 20 active users needs a fully protected main page. Meta (3,000 active users), Wikidata (10,000 active users), and several other sites do just fine without it. Regardless... Labardor -> Labrador, please. Thanks. PinkAmpersand (talk) 09:13, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
I propose that the logo of this site be changed to Cree letters. I don't speak a word of Cree but I believe that you may have to use different names depending on area:
IllogicMink (talk) 09:45, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
please lock up the main page, it is constantly spammed--176.104.110.11 21:41, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Cree is missing from this page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/There_is_also_a_Wikipedia_in_your_language
Thank you, Varlaam (talk) 08:04, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Cree wikipedia should be a useful tool for Cree speakers and not a game in the hands of non-speakers --HacheDous=0 (talk) 12:05, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
what’s wrong with this wiki?? everywhere i go there’s missing links, inconsistencies, vandalism and aged articles. plus, looking at edit history, it seems that cree wikipedia is treated as a ‘playground’ for people who just want to vandalize wikipedia (why?). is there any sort of organized team or group that is dedicated to at least not letting this wiki pass away? MishchaytWiki (talk) 22:01, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
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