I am currently streaming a video conference about the Cherokee language and language-revitalization efforts from Western Carolina University's Cherokee Language program where Dr.
Hartwell Francis, the former director, is speaking. To paraphrase him, he stated that the Cherokee-language community has been aware of this project for a decade, but that many of the current Wikipedia articles are of remarkably poor quality because of the influence of bot-generated entries. This makes even looking at them incredibly demotivating because the challenge of fixing them is so daunting. Thus, he suggests cleaning up the project and perhaps revitalizing it through aggressive deleting of low-quality entries.
A possible alternative to mass deletion might be mass partial blanking to encourage more human-created edits. A poor quality article could be reduced to some boiler-plate text like "XXX is in need of an article" or "XXX had the previous article replaced with this text because it was poor-quality, but please feel free to begin a new article now", but in Cherokee. I am not a Cherokee-speaker, but I could help make these edits (or teach someone else to) if a boiler-plate text and a list of the low-quality demotivating entries were provided. I plan to notify Dr. Hartwell Francis about this thread, and let him know that I believe an bold approach like this is warranted (and feasible) in order to deal with what appears like a stagnant project. Any ideas? Biosthmors (talk) 16:00, 26 ᎠᏄᏱ 2018 (UTC)
Ping to User:Ooswesthoesbes, who I see has helped start short articles here (for example ᏣᎳᎩ ᎫᎾᏕᎶᏆᏍᏗ ᏚᏓᏥᏍᎬᎢ). Biosthmors (talk) 16:16, 26 ᎠᏄᏱ 2018 (UTC)
Cherokee Wikipedia is a 2007 guinea pig victim of an experiment in machine translation run by Jeffrey Merkey. The **** was just dumped onto the pages en masse. Any page longer than one sentence was produced by a computer program, and no human ever looked at it. Seb az86556 (talk) 21:41, 26 ᎠᏄᏱ 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Biosthmors for starting this conversation and Ooswesthoesbes and Seb az86556 for providing context and clarification on the machine translation debacle. I see that editor was banned from Wikipedia a decade ago.
I also gave some remarks at the symposium at Western Carolina (I'm Derek). I think there would be interest in organizing an edit-a-thon out at Western Carolina, and hopefully we could get some of the fluent speakers to attend along with advanced learners. It would be great if, in preparation, we could clean all the garbage articles out. I like the idea of blanking them with boilerplate. It would be nice if there was a bot to do this, but if there are just a few hundred articles, we could probably get it done manually? I'm not a speaker, but could coordinate the translation of the boilerplate or template by a fluent speaker.
What else should we be considering if we wanted to reboot this project with an edit-a-thon? --R12ntech (talk) 18:24, 9 ᎧᏩᏂ 2018 (UTC)
Shall I make a request so someone will run a bot on this wiki to mark all pages with a category like [[Category:To be checked]]? Or would you prefer the category to have another name? --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 09:23, 13 ᎧᏩᏂ 2018 (UTC)
Mass deletion/blanking of pages will not result in a revival of Cherokee wikipedia, it would result in its continued stagnation and attract zero native speakers to edit here. Imagine if all the stubs of Kashmiri Wikipedia were deleted right now, would a flood of Kashmiris start editing there? Highly unlikely. There are other methods that can be utilized to revive a Wikipedia project and they ought to be explored. --Philip J (talk) 04:18, 27 ᎧᎦᎵ 2019 (UTC)
This Wikipedia was created before the Incubator system, so there has apparently never been a major push to complete the interface translation. If anyone wants to work on this, the Cherokee portal on translatewiki is here: [2], and the direct link to the "most important messages" for the Mediawiki interface is here: [3]
Here's a brief article on the topic: Translating the software that powers Wiki --R12ntech (talk) 19:32, 11 ᎧᏩᏂ 2018 (UTC)
Considering we probably got a lot of clean-up work to do, I want to request admin rights to delete unsalvageable pages, so we don't get a way too long backlog. --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 14:59, 18 ᎧᏩᏂ 2018 (UTC)
ᎠᏑᏫᏍᏗ means rouge according to http://cherokeedictionary.net/ , but it is currently the title of the article for color. Color appears to be ᏗᎧᏃᏗ, which is currently only a redirect to ᎠᏑᏫᏍᏗ. Perhaps we should delete the redirect at ᏗᎧᏃᏗ and move the color article there, then delete the leftover redirect for ᎠᏑᏫᏍᏗ? Biosthmors (talk) 19:37, 3 ᎠᎾᎠᎬᏘ 2018 (UTC)
I placed {{Delete}} on Sung Jae-gi. I think we should delete it because it seems unlikely it will ever be expanded to contain quality Cherokee-language content. I also don't like the idea that it has an English name as a title, but I imagine that can't be avoided sometimes. For comparison, at en:w:Sung Jae-gi, the article has been getting an average of 12 page views a day, for what it's worth. Biosthmors (talk) 16:33, 15 ᎠᎾᎠᎬᏘ 2018 (UTC)
I placed {{Delete}} on ᏩᎦᏧᎧᏅᏍᏕᎾ ᎤᏂᎾᏗᏅᏗ, an article on market trends. I think this article should be deleted because it is a highly specialized topic that is unlikely to be edited, was machine-translated, and seems better scrubbed from the site than to even leave a stub. The article hasn't had any significant edits in the last 12 or so years. I only see that some minor edits (such as fixing transliterations into the Cherokee script) have been made. Biosthmors (talk) 02:36, 23 ᎠᎾᎠᎬᏘ 2018 (UTC)
I marked ᎠᏥᎸᏍᎩ because it appears to be a common word for flower (but can also mean either rose or orchid per the online dictionary) that is currently redirecting to the rose article. Flower (ᎠᏥᎸᏍᎩ) is a fundamental topic that should exist as a red link until a standalone article is created, in my opinion. Biosthmors (talk) 02:19, 25 ᎠᎾᎠᎬᏘ 2018 (UTC)
I marked ᎠᏓᏍᏕᎸᏗ with {{Delete}}. It took me longer than usual to get a decent idea about what's the topic of the article. The online dictionary gives definitions of aid, charity, rescue, assist, protect, intercede, and relief for the term. Wikidata thinks it's about the Great Commandment. One reason I'm of the opinion to delete is because there isn't an apparent lead section/first sentence to orient readers. (ᎧᏁᏨ means word so I'm guessing that first section is about etymology?) For what it's worth, en:w:Charity (virtue) and en:w:Charity (practice) are separate topics on English Wiki ᏣᎳᎩ. It seems charity is the topic of the article. There have been no significant edits to the article in the last 12 years, only minor changes from Roman letters into the Cherokee syllabary since the machine-translated data dump. It just seems better to delete this one to me. Biosthmors (talk) 17:56, 29 ᎠᎾᎠᎬᏘ 2018 (UTC)
I placed {{Delete}} on ᎪᎱᏍᏗ ᎬᏔᏂᏓᏍᏗ. This machine-translated article is intended to be about tools. However, the term ᎪᎱᏍᏗ ᎬᏔᏂᏓᏍᏗ is defined as instruments in the Cherokee online dictionary. (Another term is used for tools.) It appears this article is so bad that it can't even get the title right. We might as well scrap it. Biosthmors (talk) 13:31, 8 ᎠᏄᏱ 2019 (UTC)
Similarly, I placed {{Delete}} on ᏁᎵᏒ. It is supposed to be about thought, but the dictionary defines it as assumed. Another word is given for thought. Biosthmors (talk) 23:34, 12 ᎠᏄᏱ 2019 (UTC)
And I placed {{Delete}} on ᏕᎦᏃᏣᎸ because it is machine-translated to be about telegraphy, but the dictionary defines ᏕᎦᏃᏣᎸ as publication. For what it's worth, the dictionary says telegram is ᎠᎾᎦᎳᏔᏅ. Biosthmors (talk) 13:08, 13 ᎠᏄᏱ 2019 (UTC)
I'll deal with those pages once I get the necessary tools. Did you forget to place the deletion template on ᏕᎦᏃᏣᎸ or have you changed your mind? --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 10:00, 14 ᎠᏄᏱ 2019 (UTC)
Please delete Coat of Arms. It's drive by tagging/vandalism. Biosthmors (talk) 00:50, 24 ᎧᏩᏂ 2019 (UTC)
I placed {{Delete}} on ᎦᎸᎳᏗᏦᏒ ᎠᏓᏅᏒ ᏧᎾᏁᎶᏗᎢ with the following rationale: One can see the discussion at https://www.duhoctrungquoc.vn/wiki/en/Wiki:Articles_for_deletion/Heaven_Sent_Gaming for example. I would suspect this article was established for promotional purposes. It's just not important enough for an article here. Biosthmors (talk) 19:54, 20 ᎠᎾᎠᎬᏘ 2019 (UTC)
I placed {{Delete}} on ᎧᎹᎹ ᎤᏔᎾ. The article is about https://www.duhoctrungquoc.vn/wiki/en/Elephantidae but we don't even have an article on elephant at the moment here. This topic is just too technical to be useful at this point in time on this project, in my opinion. Biosthmors (talk) 20:00, 20 ᎠᎾᎠᎬᏘ 2019 (UTC)
Similarly, I placed on {{Delete}} on ᏏᏆᎤᏤᏣᏍᏗ as it's also a technical biological concept ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6584653 ). I went ahead and deleted the link back to that Cherokee article on Wikidata. I also went ahead and created an article on opossum with a picture (ᏏᏆ ᎤᏤᏥᏍᏗ), since we didn't previously have one. Biosthmors (talk) 21:57, 20 ᎠᎾᎠᎬᏘ 2019 (UTC)
I placed {{Delete}} on Zemeros flegyas. It's an Asian species of butterfly, and I don't see how there would be a Cherokee word for it. There were no hits when searching for the English word "Zemeros" in the Cherokee online dictionary. Honestly, I don't see why we should host obscure articles here that have no conceivable connection to the Cherokee language. I feel like this encyclopedia needs to prioritize things that are relevant in Cherokee if we are to attract those wishing to preserve and revitalize the language. Any article we host here, in my opinion, is an implicit request for contributions from those with Cherokee knowledge. And since Cherokee is endangered, and that resource (Cherokee knowledge) is exceedingly scarce, I feel like we should be mindful of that and typically only host relevant concepts or things of general interest to a global population. (A random Polish town or village would not qualify, for example. I recall seeing those on this site.) For examples of relevant concepts in Cherokee, this link shows files with terms for animals, insects, and plants that are documented on the Cherokee Nation website. Biosthmors (talk) 20:35, 20 ᎠᎾᎠᎬᏘ 2019 (UTC)
I placed {{Delete}} on ᎠᏣᏅᏙ. This word is defined as ornament, and despite that, this title used to host the article on plasma, which has been moved and is now at ᎩᎦ ᎤᎸᏌᏓ. An inappropriate redirect remains. Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 18:26, 29 ᎠᎾᎠᎬᏘ 2019 (UTC)
I placed on {{Delete}} on Ayyavazhi. It is a Hindu denomination of 8 to 10 million people according to the English Wiki ᏣᎳᎩ. One day when there's an article on Hinduism (one doesn't currently exists according to Wikidata) perhaps it can be mentioned there. This topic is too specialized for this project's purposes at this moment. When so many things that do have Cherokee words for them aren't covered here I just don't see the point. The same goes for Carl Menger. Perhaps he could be mentioned on an economics article should one be written. I placed the delete template there as well. Biosthmors (talk) 23:39, 29 ᎠᎾᎠᎬᏘ 2019 (UTC)
I placed {{Delete}} on the redirect ᎠᏬᎭᎵ. It redirects to the concept of eagle, however it appears that this redirect is main word for eagle according to a dictionary search. So I propose moving ᏬᎭᎵ (eagle) there when it is deleted. Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 20:06, 13 ᏕᎭᎷᏱ 2019 (UTC)
I placed {{Delete}} on ᎢᏃᎵ. It is currently linked to Wikidata as the American badger. However, I can't find a word for badger on the online dictionary. There also isn't a word for badger on the Cherokee Nation poster of animals.[4] However, I did find the word ᎢᏃᎵ on the Consortium Word List, which says it means "black fox". After looking that up it might refer to a historical person as https://www.duhoctrungquoc.vn/wiki/en/Black_Fox_(Cherokee_chief) or to an animal as https://www.duhoctrungquoc.vn/wiki/en/Silver_fox_(animal) , or both concepts perhaps. I propose deleting it for now as it appears we have it wrong for the moment. Biosthmors (talk) 20:19, 13 ᏕᎭᎷᏱ 2019 (UTC)
I placed {{Delete}} on ᎬᏂᎨᏧᎵ. I couldn't find any evidence that this was the correct word for the red fox. For what it's worth, ᏧᎵ is the accepted word for fox according to the Cherokee Nation poster of animals. Biosthmors (talk) 20:28, 13 ᏕᎭᎷᏱ 2019 (UTC)
I placed {{Delete}} on ᏗᏂᏃᎨᏂ because the dictionary says it is defined as "arms" but right now it is tied to the concept of rifle via Wikidata. When you go to the dictionary to search for arm, then you see that ᏗᎧᏃᎨᏂ is the NC medical definition for arms. And ᎦᏃᎨᏂ is given as the term for his arm. Given that all of these words have ᏃᎨᏂ in them, I suspect this is a biological term, and not one for armaments. Given the ambiguity, and the fact there's no real content, I say we should just delete it. Biosthmors (talk) 20:34, 15 ᏕᎭᎷᏱ 2019 (UTC)
I placed {{Delete}} on Ꮄꭲꮹ. It appears someone interested in Japanese culture added the article, but it isn't a Cherokee word I think it's safe to assume. If we're proven wrong later, the article can be recreated. I also placed the delete template on Ꮌꮩ Ꭶꭰꮚꭱꮎ Ꮙꮚꮎ Ꮤꮳ as it is something relevant in Japanese but not in Cherokee, I presume. Ethnologue says ~1500 people speak Cherokee right now. I imagine they are talking about something else in Cherokee than random things that are concepts in Japanese. Biosthmors (talk) 18:04, 17 ᏕᎭᎷᏱ 2019 (UTC)
I placed {{Delete}} on ᎠᏫᏳᏍᏘ. I could not find a match for antelope in the either online dictionary or the animals poster. I don't know how we can make sure this is the right word. For what it's worth, the google definition says that antelope are African and/or Asian, so I'm not sure a Cherokee word for them even exists. And as an aside, specific Cherokee words for bird species abound. I'm guessing we're missing a lot of those articles. Biosthmors (talk) 20:47, 17 ᏕᎭᎷᏱ 2019 (UTC)
I placed {{Delete}} on ᏡᎬᎢ. It is a redirect to the current tree article ᏡᎬ, but I find ᏡᎬᎢ more frequently as the word for tree in the dictionary. Also, for what it's worth, ᏡᎬ is only defined in the online dictionary as a Microsoft computing term for a data tree. I guess leaving it as a redirect to ᏡᎬᎢ is fine though. Biosthmors (talk) 16:51, 21 ᏕᎭᎷᏱ 2019 (UTC)
@Biosthmors and other users: my admin access expires on the 30th of July. I would like to prolong it, as I have used it a few times the past three months. I hope you agree with that :) --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 08:11, 21 ᎫᏰᏉᏂ 2018 (UTC)
Dear people, as my admin access expired over a month ago, I would like to reapply if you all agree :) --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 10:40, 12 ᎠᏄᏱ 2019 (UTC)
I informed meta here. --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 10:47, 19 ᎠᏄᏱ 2019 (UTC)
The site notice posts "Do you speak ᏣᎳᎩ ᎧᏬᏂᎯᏍᏗ? Help us to revive the Cherokee Wikipedia! Discuss the future of this project on ᏫᎩᏇᏗᏯ:ᎾᎥ ᏄᎾᏓᎸ ᎾᎿᎢ." for all newcomers to view I presume, and I just never dismiss it. I use the link to ᏫᎩᏇᏗᏯ:ᎾᎥ ᏄᎾᏓᎸ ᎾᎿᎢ to come here from time to time. But no matter what Cherokee Wikipedia page I view right now, the link to ᏫᎩᏇᏗᏯ:ᎾᎥ ᏄᎾᏓᎸ ᎾᎿᎢ is bold and doesn't actually link here. Any ideas? Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 13:42, 12 ᎠᏄᏱ 2019 (UTC)
I'm one of those that originally tried to whip up some steam in regards to this Cherokee Wiki a million years ago (I added the Cherokee keyboard under the edit box etc). I'm glad to see some more people being active. I am nowhere near a good speaker though, so mostly I just help in the background. I just wanted to say I'm here too! Cheers, Nesnad (talk) 18:14, 28 ᎠᏄᏱ 2019 (UTC)
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Hello all! I'm Jonathan. I'm an editor on the English Wikipedia, but this is my first time here on the Cherokee Wiki ᏣᎳᎩ. Nice to meet everyone! I was wondering if anyone is still trying to revive this wiki. If so, who's still here? What's being done? Is there any way I could help? I live in North Carolina, so I thought maybe I could try to get in touch with local Cherokee. I don't have any personal relations to the Cherokee people, and don't speak Cherokee, but after reading that Cherokee is on the verge of becoming extinct I was hoping I could help out in some way... Does anyone know of any good Cherokee language learning materials? Are any Cherokee speakers currently working on this wiki? What are some topics that need articles? Are there any decent translation tools from languages with many good articles into Cherokee? What are some of the best existing articles on this wiki? Might it make sense to try to write some decent articles in English about topics that are relevant to the Cherokee people, and then try to translate them into Cherokee? Here are some topics that I think might be relevant:
If there's anything I can do to help out, let me know! JonathanHopeThisIsUnique (talk) 02:55, 30 ᏚᏂᏅᏗ 2019 (UTC)
I am from the english wikipedia. If you need anything from me let me know. I am on the SWMT. https://www.duhoctrungquoc.vn/wiki/en/User_talk:Bobherry Bobherry (talk) 04:23, 17 ᎧᎦᎵ 2020 (UTC) en:User:Bobherry
I am very honored to find such a discussion like this. I will promote this with the (http://www.cherokeeheritage.org/) Cherokee Heritage Center the next time I am able to communicate with them. Perhaps that will get some interest going. This is a perfect way to keep the written language alive. --Tsistunagiska (talk) 10:35, 4 ᎦᎶᏂᎢ 2020 (UTC)
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Siyo! There's an interesting discussion about the Scots Wikipedia happening over at Meta, maybe some of you have already seen it: m:Requests for comment/Disruptive editing on sco.wikipedia on an unparalleled scale. Apparently that wiki also has a catastrophic problem with poorly-translated content. While the context is a bit different (chr's bad machine translations vs. sco's bad human translations) the resulting problems are similar. I'll be interested to see what approach they take to resolving them. --R12ntech (talk) 17:23, 26 ᎦᎶᏂᎢ 2020 (UTC)
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Yes, here is a Cherokee script generator/decoder (you can do either Latin to Cherokee script or Cherokee to Latin script). I don't know of any (good) machine translators for Cherokee (apparently the Cherokee Nation is helping Google Translate add Cherokee and the Google search engine is available in Cherokee), so I would recommend using an online dictionary.
Hi, I just have been contributing (note I'm Australian so I don't know HEAPS of Cherokee) and I found an online list of every country and dependency name in Cherokee (written in Cherokee script). Feel free to view it here. It would be useful so we can A expand this Wikipedia and get to 1,000 articles and B so we can (eventually) make a Cherokee version of en:List of sovereign states. Thanks. 144.136.10.9 05:55, 20 ᏚᎵᎢᏍᏗ 2021 (UTC)
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UOzurumba (WMF) (talk) 14:59, 17 ᎦᎶᏂᎢ 2023 (UTC) On behalf of the WMF Language team.
ᏏᏲ/Hi for the non Cherokee speaker with zero understanding the only approved sites for learning the Correct Cherokee language are from the Cherokee Nations language department, which is run by a committee of chosen members who represents EBC (North Carolina Eastern Band Cherokee's), UKB( United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee's) and CN (Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma), they are fluent first language speaker and fluent second language speakers all with a great understanding of the language. To actually understand the Cherokee language first one has to totally grasp the understanding of how our language works, which you will not understand reading a few articles about our language because it just can't describe it in enough detail and it has to also be heard. College Students with basic knowledge and understanding of our language who are Cherokee with relatives that speak the language have to be completely immersed for 40+ hours a week for two years Upon completion, participants are expected to be, at minimum, conversational lvl. There's 85 syllabaries (there was originally 86) each syllabary represents a particular sound, today alongside each syllabary is a phonetic example of the sounds written out with english alphabet, (the alphabet Don't represent the syllabary but the syllabary represents the each sound.) A single syllabary/sound can represent a word where just a few syllabaries together can convey/represent an entire phrase. Being that Cherokee is a descriptive language saying something wrong can mean the difference between getting water (written ᎠᎹ, pronounced ama) or (salt ᎠᎹ pronounced aama) in either example the (a) sound islikethe(a) in (saw) it's just the (aa) is a drawn-out sound. Just a simple example. 2600:387:1:817:0:0:0:89 10:39, 10 ᏄᏓᏕᏆ 2023 (UTC)
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